TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Ryder]

The fact is that the current government of Turkey is used as a scapegoat by anti-Turkish lobbies. Unfortunately little has been done to combat this.

It's easy to paint a party which has been in control for 20 years in a bad light, even without all the corruption being put into consideration. If a new leader/party is elected, anti-Turkey lobbies will be scratching their heads on how to paint Turkey as being "undemocratic". They will lose a lot of power overnight.

However, they are already preparing for this. For example, they are trying to demonise Ümit Özdağ.

Whenever leadership changes, it offers an opportunity to reset relations. A recent example of this is Israel.

All of the Turkish lobbyists were fetocus as Erdogan gave all this stuff to them now we deal with the fallout. We lost a huge chunk as fetocus who lobbied for us are now lobbying against us with the Jewish, Greek, Armenian and Kurdish lobbies.

 

[TheInsider]

400 million euros for fucking 3 UAVs WTF. It is even more expensive than the best fighter you can buy. IMHO Greeks are really looking for bankruptcy. This is next-level robbery.

BTW SeaGuardian is a great UAV but this is f*cking robbery

 

[CAN_TR]

They are like Gulf Arabs on shopping spree but without the money...

 

[Heartbang]

They are not even armed too.

o rly? do we have a source for that?

 

[Lool]

Looool
The more the west gets pissed the more I like Erdo (sadly he always buckles at the end)
It seems that recent statements from Erdo about the parliament not accepting the Finland and Sweden membership into NATO is drawing some eerie from western states

Letter: Nato should be ready to suspend Turkey’s membership

From Mark Wallace and Madeleine Joelson, Turkish Democracy Project, New York, NY, US — Our most-read letter of the last week

www.ft.com

 

[Manomed]

o rly? do we have a source for that?

Only UK and 2 countries have armed MQ9 drones. US doesn't sell out the armed versions easily to anyone.

 

[Corvus]

It seems like Ben Wallace is going to be leading the UK after Boris.

If the British bring a soldier to the head of the state, the belts must be fastened. Winter really is coming.

I see the rapprochement of Turkey and the United Kingdom as very important strategic moves for both states. Continental Europe is in decadence. The times when they were military powers dividing the world among themselves are over. In the coming period, they will age gradually, their demographics will deteriorate, and they will become a giant consumption continent.

The UK has always been the best in intelligence and diplomacy throughout the history. They are really smart, they understand the importance of having a real fighting nation on their side and not bunch of pinky soy boys who thinks 40 times before sending 500 fucking helmets to Ukraine while shutting down their remaining nuclear power plants.

They do not give such great support to our national combat aircraft project for nothing. Besides their support to our projects, we should use them in diplomacy and bring the USA and Atlantic block closer to our side. The UK and WASP are still the most influentual agents in American foreign policy and decision making.

 

[what]

I found this on his Wikipedia article:

On 13 October 2019, in a NATO meeting, Wallace defended the 2019 Turkish offensive into north-eastern Syria. He commented, "Turkey needs to do what it sometimes has to do to defend itself". His comments were condemned by other delegates at the meeting.[34][35]

Ben Wallace (politician) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sounds solid.

 

[Lool]

I found this on his Wikipedia article:

On 13 October 2019, in a NATO meeting, Wallace defended the 2019 Turkish offensive into north-eastern Syria. He commented, "Turkey needs to do what it sometimes has to do to defend itself". His comments were condemned by other delegates at the meeting.[34][35]

Ben Wallace (politician) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sounds solid.

Yup, he ruled himself out
I swear, it feels as if some sort of hidden power is kicking all the Pro-Turkey leaders out of the PM race

I dont think that Rishi sunack will stand by Turkey's side tbh

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1545737578154016769

 

[Anastasius]

Yup, he ruled himself out
I swear, it feels as if some sort of hidden power is kicking all the Pro-Turkey leaders out of the PM race

I dont think that Rishi sunack will stand by Turkey's side tbh

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1545737578154016769

Rishi Sunak won't be the candidate. He has way too much dirty laundry just like Boris did.

Wallace ruled himself out because he has way more control over relevant matters as defense minister. And Britain is gearing up for WW3, like for real.

 

[Ravenman]

Its time for Turkey to question the relations and 'special band' with Pakistan.

A highly ambitious train-network was established between Turkey-Iran-Pakistan. Vendors and businesses from all 3 countries were excited and this project attracted a lot of traders.

Six operations were carried out since last year, but every time the Pakistani administration and bureaucracy sabotaged it what resulted in heavy losses and delays. They had no problems with Iranian goods, alle the problems were related to Turkish goods. Now all traders are boycotting this network.

We are negotiating for almost 10 years for a Free Trade Agreement with Pakistan but they dont give a milimeter space.

Pakistan uses Turkey for their own interest (Kashmir, financial aid, migrants) but Turkey never benefits from Pakistan. Only China benefits, they get everything done in Pakistan.

Time to reconsider our 'special relationship' and befriend India that has much more potential.

Exporters question ITI train viability amid massive delays

No trader has so far booked any consignment for the 7th train as they have "lost trust".

www.dawn.com

 

[Lool]

Its time for Turkey to question the relations and 'special band' with Pakistan.

A highly ambitious train-network was established between Turkey-Iran-Pakistan. Vendors and businesses from all 3 countries were excited and this project attracted a lot of traders.

Six operations were carried out since last year, but every time the Pakistani administration and bureaucracy sabotaged it what resulted in heavy losses and delays. They had no problems with Iranian goods, alle the problems were related to Turkish goods. Now all traders are boycotting this network.

We are negotiating for almost 10 years for a Free Trade Agreement with Pakistan but they dont give a milimeter space.

Pakistan uses Turkey for their own interest (Kashmir, financial aid, migrants) but Turkey never benefits from Pakistan. Only China benefits, they get everything done in Pakistan.

Time to reconsider our 'special relationship' and befriend India that has much more potential.

Exporters question ITI train viability amid massive delays

No trader has so far booked any consignment for the 7th train as they have "lost trust".

www.dawn.com

It reeks of China tbh

The greatest loser in such a scenario would be China! Since China has a greater leverage in Pakistan, this is probably what happened. Lets also not forget that Pkaistan is way too corrupt compared to India or China


It is at the end, a country where the final say is made by military officers; I swear, whenever military personnel are involved in decision-making process, shit goes wrong

 

[CAN_TR]

"Brotherhood" only in words, Türkiye really should turn back to neutral politics and warm up relations with India.

 

[Sami1234]

Turks were always among the biggest supporters of Israel. Wht do Turks see of the new Arab Zionist military Alliance, is it in your favour? especially in East Med, Syria, Iraq, Libya and Somalia.

 

[Heartbang]

Wht do Turks see of the new Arab Zionist military Alliance, is it in your favour?

I dont think it is. the moment that alliance does its thing with Iran, Turkiye will be the next target.

 

[Ryder]

Turks were always among the biggest supporters of Israel. Wht do Turks see of the new Arab Zionist military Alliance, is it in your favour? especially in East Med, Syria, Iraq, Libya and Somalia.

Bro we dont trust Arabs, Israelis or the Iranians we only care about our interests.

Any of them in any moment would backstab us.

Only thing to keep this region under control is an iron fist.

Dont care about what religion or race you name it. Interests all that matters.

Israelis, Arabs and Iranians at each others throats benefits us in the long run.

Some Turks who have this love affair with Israel are uncle toms.

 

[Ryder]

Arabs are majority Sunni they see us as Sunni rivals while the Iranians see us as rivals because they are shia.

Turks, Arabs and Iranians have been rivals for centuries in the Islamic World.

Jews have been our allies for centuries while at the same time we dont trust them for centuries they always scheme from behind. As I said the Israelis only care about themselves. I dont blame thats how the Jews survived for centuries they knew how to pick their friends while at the same time they earnt enormous wealth which bought power.

Look at Islamic history the Jews were so close to a lot of Muslim rulers due to their wealth. As usual a lot of Muslim rulers were paranoid as fck that Muslims were going to do a coup.

Thats why the Ottomans destroyed the Turkish nobility families replaced them with Christians or Jews as they were more trustable than Muslim Turks.

In the long run their paranoia costed their empire same story with the Mamluks and Al andalus.

Thats monarchy for you a paranoid system. Honestly if monarchy in this planet dies off its really better for everybody.

 

[Sami1234]

Arabs are majority Sunni they see us as Sunni rivals while the Iranians see us as rivals because they are shia.

Turks, Arabs and Iranians have been rivals for centuries in the Islamic World.

Jews have been our allies for centuries while at the same time we dont trust them for centuries they always scheme from behind. As I said the Israelis only care about themselves. I dont blame thats how the Jews survived for centuries they knew how to pick their friends while at the same time they earnt enormous wealth which bought power.

Look at Islamic history the Jews were so close to a lot of Muslim rulers due to their wealth. As usual a lot of Muslim rulers were paranoid as fck that Muslims were going to do a coup.

Thats why the Ottomans destroyed the Turkish nobility families replaced them with Christians or Jews as they were more trustable than Muslim Turks.

In the long run their paranoia costed their empire same story with the Mamluks and Al andalus.

Thats monarchy for you a paranoid system. Honestly if monarchy in this planet dies off its really better for everybody.

I'm not talking about Jews im talking about Zionists, they already began to form a joint army with some arabs, the Israeli Air Force began operating in the skies of some Arab countries like Jordan its part of what they call the New NATO of the middle east.

 

[Ryder]

I'm not talking about Jews im talking about Zionists, they already began to form a joint army with some arabs, the Israeli Air Force began operating in the skies of some Arab countries like Jordan its part of what they call the New NATO of the middle east.

Arabs and Israelis are working together against iran also lesser extent Turkiye.

At the same time Turks, Arabs and Israelis are becoming close due to Iran.

Its a pure game of chess. Everybody is making moves.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1546824143735345152