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And attacking Russian forces (and possibly also Assad’s forces) from Northwestern Syria is the only way. SDF would against any idea of attacking Russian from their controlled areas, since it can risk their relations with Russian and Assad. Except, Battle of Khasham for sure.

After Trump initiated US forces withdrawal from some areas in Northeastern Syria, for example Manbij, SDF’s security guarantors against Turkish forces on those areas are Assad’s and Russian forces.
 

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“Active combat is ongoing in the southern part of the country, particularly in the Golan Heights, where Russian forces are currently concentrated.”

Shit, but Golan Heights? Doesn’t mean impossible, just it is too isolated for people and logistics to come in because no significant rebel forces hold any areas there.
 

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Not related, just saying. Kunya that usually used by Indonesian for sure al-Indunisi, but sometimes also al-Arkhabiliy (the Archipelagean) that also can be used by people from the whole Maritime Southeast Asia.

More local also al-Bantani (Banten), al-Samarani (Semarang) and al-Jugjawy (Yogyakarta).

Mantan anggota Sheila on 7 ada yang pake kunya Salman al-Jugjawy wkwk
 

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al-Arkhabiliy (the Archipelagean) that also can be used by people from the whole Maritime Southeast Asia
How about people from other archipelagic regions, like Greece or West Indies? Al-Arkhabiliy only used to refer people from Southeast Asian archipelago.

Other like al-Jazrawi (from Jazirah or peninsula/semenanjung) to refer people from Saudi Arabia. Doesn’t mean people from Korean Peninsula can also used al-Jazrawi as kunya.

Talking about West Indies, there are/were muhajir (migrants) of Islamic State from Trinidad and Tobago, they using al-Trinidadi as kunya.
 

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Congo Crisis was as confusing as it could.

So there are two Congo now, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and Republic of the Congo. The DRC was part of Congo that was colonized by the Belgian and Republic of the Congo was colonized the French. The main problems were in what now called as DRC.

The DRC back then was called as Republic of Congo–Leopoldville (Kinshasa) and the other was Republic of Congo–Brazzaville. There were some influential political parties in Leopoldville Congo, the big MNC with Patrice Lumumba on the top, ABAKO with Joseph Kasa Vubu and Katangese secessionist Moise Tshombe’s CONAKAT.

After they gained their independence from Belgian, they made the country as parliamentary republic, with big portions of the seats were MNC. Lumumba appointed as Prime Minister, Kasa Vubu as President. And then Lumumba put his friend from MNC as the chief of the army, Mobutu Sese Seko.

With the conditions seen as not to their favors and Belgian forces still around, President and PM asked for help from the UN, resolution made by the UN to pressured the Belgian to get out and UN peacekeeping force deployed to support the government. United Nation Operation in the Congo (UNOC) became the most expensive UN mission ever in history, with view that you don’t see today, UN peacekeepers with fighter jets, including from Philippines Air Force’s F-86 Sabre.

With secessionists came up, especially in mineral-rich Katanga, Lumumba, that known for its pro-Soviet worldview, asked the Soviet to helped them fought the secessionists. Kasa Vubu against that move asked Mobutu to caught Lumumba, and Lumumba asked Mobutu to caught Kasa Vubu also lol, holy shit moment.

Belgian and other western powers, for sure the US also, openly and secretly backed the Congolese military, Mobutu and Moise Tshombe’s CONAKAT. With the odds of President’s and PM’s both ordered Mobutu to captured each others, he arrested Lumumba and took control over the country.

Lumumba put to house arrest and at one moment moved to Elisabethville, the capital of Katanga. Right there he was kidnapped by Tshombe’ force and killed. Tshombe unilaterally declared the State of Katanga, with the backing of western countries and mining companies who feared that their companies would be ‘nationalized’ by Lumumbists.

UNOC launched Operation Morthor against Tshombe secessionist. Tshombe with the help of western powers (secretly), mining companies and mercenaries fought against UN peacekeepers, the most well known siege of Jadotville, where Irish company UN peacekeepers were under siege for 5-days by mercenaries with Algerian War veteran ex-FFL Roger Faulques as its commander.

UN Secretary General during that time tried to stop the fight, but his plane was crashed on the way to Congo. Lots of speculations about the crash.

I ever posted it here, post it again lol
 

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Kalo ini beneran pengganti FREMM yg ASW, nangis beneran FINCANTIERI, 6 FREMM cuma diganti 2 PPA wkwkwkwk
naga2nya bisa jadi begitu ...

Fincantieri kliatan kurang berani beri bonus dan Naval Group aktif beri iming2 ToT dan bisa di produksi lokal ... kaya Korsel yg jualan nya kaku , walhasil menjadi drakor ...
 

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naga2nya bisa jadi begitu ...

Fincantieri kliatan kurang berani beri bonus dan Naval Group aktif beri iming2 ToT dan bisa di produksi lokal ... kaya Korsel yg jualan nya kaku , walhasil menjadi drakor ...
Kronos di FMP itu bisa dibilang bonus kan?
 

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naga2nya bisa jadi begitu ...

Fincantieri kliatan kurang berani beri bonus dan Naval Group aktif beri iming2 ToT dan bisa di produksi lokal ... kaya Korsel yg jualan nya kaku , walhasil menjadi drakor ...
palingan 2 2nya tetep jalan, cuma jumlahnya yg disesuaikan ulang.
 

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naga2nya bisa jadi begitu ...

Fincantieri kliatan kurang berani beri bonus dan Naval Group aktif beri iming2 ToT dan bisa di produksi lokal ... kaya Korsel yg jualan nya kaku , walhasil menjadi drakor ...
Ya gimana ya, NG berani offer Bangun lokal dari kapal ke satu kalo beli. Tambah Perancis berani utangin banyak. Ini yg ga bisa dilakukan Italia
 

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Kalo ini beneran pengganti FREMM yg ASW, nangis beneran FINCANTIERI, 6 FREMM cuma diganti 2 PPA wkwkwkwk
AL & Kemhan kyknya punya fetish frigate besar min 140m, AH140 aja yg udh 138m mau dipanjangin lagi ukurannya, sementara FDI ukurannya cuma 122m, Fremm kyknya masih jadi top of mind AL & Kemhan.
 

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