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[NEKO]

Ayo amankan F15, biar lebih mentereng gitu bisa ttd waktu indo defence

Pespur dari amrik masih belum jelas meskipun rencana pengadaan sudah bertahun tahun, malah disalip sama Rafale.

F15EX juga belum tentu kepilih.
Mari sabar menanti.

 

[Lordimperator]

Pespur dari amrik masih belum jelas meskipun rencana pengadaan sudah bertahun tahun, malah disalip sama Rafale.

F15EX juga belum tentu kepilih.
Mari sabar menanti.

Dapet rafale lagi gapapa sih, nambah sampai 100 armada. Atau viper sampai 3-4 skuadron.
Atau F35

 

[Umigami]

Pespur dari amrik masih belum jelas meskipun rencana pengadaan sudah bertahun tahun, malah disalip sama Rafale.

F15EX juga belum tentu kepilih.
Mari sabar menanti.

Pasti kebeli (entah apapun itu).
US is too big to ignored (especially for Prabs)

 

[satria]

Total Alpalhankam yang diserahkan sebanyak 569 unit, beberapa produk Pindad diantaranya terdiri dari 250 unit rantis Maung MV3, 8 unit medium tank Harimau kanon 105 mm, 23 unit ranpur infanteri Pandur 8x8, 9 unit ranpur Anoa 6x6 APC, serta 6 unit rantis Komodo 4x4 APC.

PT. Pindad (Persero) - Wamenhan Serahkan Alpalhankam Pindad Ke Panglima TNI pada HUT ke-79 TNI

pindad.com

 

[FPXAllen]

Total Alpalhankam yang diserahkan sebanyak 569 unit, beberapa produk Pindad diantaranya terdiri dari 250 unit rantis Maung MV3, 8 unit medium tank Harimau kanon 105 mm, 23 unit ranpur infanteri Pandur 8x8, 9 unit ranpur Anoa 6x6 APC, serta 6 unit rantis Komodo 4x4 APC.

PT. Pindad (Persero) - Wamenhan Serahkan Alpalhankam Pindad Ke Panglima TNI pada HUT ke-79 TNI

pindad.com

8 Harimau baru/sisa dari 10 yang diserahkan Maret kemaren atau gimana nih? Kalau baru berarti total sudah 18 completed hulls + turrets yang ada di Pindad dong?

 

[satria]

8 Harimau baru/sisa dari 10 yang diserahkan Maret kemaren atau gimana nih? Kalau baru berarti total sudah 18 completed hulls + turrets yang ada di Pindad dong?

baru kayanya, kalo yg kmaren udah dikirim ke Yonkav 13 dan udah diserahkan kemhan

liat aj ntar pas parade ada berapa yang tampil, karena ga mungkin kirim dari Kaltim ....

 

[satria]

KRI LRK 392

Industry Made in Indonesia

Industry Made in Indonesia. 33,710 likes · 21,855 talking about this. bangga dengan produk buatan indonesia

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[satria]

High Speed Craft Bakamla

Surabaya Marine

 

[satria]

Kemhan Serahkan 769 Alpalhankam untuk Tiga Matra, Langsung Diterima Panglima TNI​

Adapun 769 alpalhankam tersebut merupakan buatan dari industri pertahanan dalam negeri, seperti PT Pindad, PT LEN, PT Sentra Surya Ekajaya hingga PT Praba Cipta Mandiri.

https://indonesiadefense.com/kemhan-serahkan-769-alpalhankam-untuk-tiga-matra-langsung-diterima-panglima-tni/

terbanyak kah?

 

[satria]

 

[satria]

Melihat dari Dekat Pesawat Tempur TNI AU yang Mondar-mandir di Langit Jakarta​

 

[satria]

Damen Shipyards Begins Construction of Multi-Purpose Vessel for Portuguese Navy​

The vessel, designated NRP Dom João II, is scheduled for delivery in 2026, joining two other Damen-built ships, the 122-metre-long NRP Bartolomeu Dias and NRP D. Francisco de Almeida.

Damen Shipyards Begins Construction of Multi-Purpose Vessel for Portuguese Navy

The 'NRP Dom Joao II' is set for delivery in 2026.

www.defensemirror.com

bagus nih idenya, LPD kedepan kalo nambah bikin gini aj ....

 

[satria]

Damen Shipyards Begins Construction of Multi-Purpose Vessel for Portuguese Navy​

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The vessel, designated NRP Dom João II, is scheduled for delivery in 2026, joining two other Damen-built ships, the 122-metre-long NRP Bartolomeu Dias and NRP D. Francisco de Almeida.

Damen Shipyards Begins Construction of Multi-Purpose Vessel for Portuguese Navy

The 'NRP Dom Joao II' is set for delivery in 2026.

www.defensemirror.com

bagus nih idenya, LPD kedepan kalo nambah bikin gini aj ....

Mini LHD dengan panjang diperbesar sekitar 140/150 m

minimal 3 buat 3 Armada
desain LHD PAL diperkecil hingga 150 meter
diisi sistem dan senjata ala TCG Anadolu
UCAV dan Helikopter selera TNI AL

Menarik bukan, murmer LHD kekinian , bisa dibikin di DRU, karena ada dek basah 200 meter ...

 

[satria]

Gas pol sampai kontrak ya cin …

Menengok Pembangunan Kapal Perang Belhara di Lorient

Sejumlah unit kapal perang FDI Belhara tengah dibangun Naval Group di Lorient, Perancis, Jumat (4/10/2024).

www.kompas.id

 

[schuimpjes]

Mini LHD dengan panjang diperbesar sekitar 140/150 m

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minimal 3 buat 3 Armada
desain LHD PAL diperkecil hingga 150 meter
diisi sistem dan senjata ala TCG Anadolu
UCAV dan Helikopter selera TNI AL

Menarik bukan, murmer LHD kekinian , bisa dibikin di DRU, karena ada dek basah 200 meter ...

Tunggu dulu. Turki pun buat TCG Anadolu rencana diawalnya untuk bawa F-35B, bukan sekedar punya-punya an yang akhirnya sekarang jadi bawa drone. Meleset dari niatan awal jadi peruntukannya.

Btw, urusan pengadaan TCG Anadolu sempet ada kasus sampe pembahasannya diangkat sama Partai CHP di Parlemen. Jadi pengadaan pas awal itu sebenernya dilimpahkan ke RMK Marine punya Koç Holding (TUSIAD), tapi akhirnya keluar rekaman telepon RTE sama Kalkavan, orang yang punya Sedef Shipyard, yang intinya mau ngasih proyek/kontrak ganti ke Kalkavan. Ngerasa tender kayak gak adil, mereka curiga terjadi bid rigging atau tendernya udah diatur yang bakal menang siapa.

Soal itu ada hubungannya sama TUSIAD yang gak akur sama Erdogan. Awal Erdogan PM mereka akur soalnya Erdogan naro-naro pondasi untuk Turki masuk EU, tapi setelah itu pupus, pupus juga kemesraan TUSIAD sama Erdogan.

 

[somegoodusername]

Tunggu dulu. Turki pun buat TCG Anadolu rencana diawalnya untuk bawa F-35B, bukan sekedar punya-punya an yang akhirnya sekarang jadi bawa drone. Meleset dari niatan awal jadi peruntukannya.

No, no, no, no, no. Never, never, never, never. There were no fixed-wing aircraft planned to be used on TCG Anadolu. It was designed as an LHD. The Turkish Navy didn’t even want the ramp on the Anadolu; Spain convinced Turkey to keep it. Turkey never considered buying F-35Bs. Turkey aimed to replace 96 F-4 Phantoms with 108 F-35As.

 

[schuimpjes]

No, no, no, no, no. Never, never, never, never. There were no fixed-wing aircraft planned to be used on TCG Anadolu. It was designed as an LHD. The Turkish Navy didn’t even want the ramp on the Anadolu; Spain convinced Turkey to keep it. Turkey never considered buying F-35Bs. Turkey aimed to replace 96 F-4 Phantoms with 108 F-35As.

I don’t know how exactly the thoughts before the contract, could be thousands of possibilities in the minds. But here it is now with ramp as the design for the contract. To say it “never” in mind to carry fixed wing aircraft is an open for question to me.

So what is the role of TCG Anadolu actually now? Amphibious Assault Ship (commando carrier in British) to carry out marine assault to the shore, or?

 

[somegoodusername]

I don’t know how exactly the thoughts before the contract, could be thousands of possibilities in the minds. But here it is now with ramp as the design for the contract. To say it “never” in mind to carry fixed wing aircraft is an open for question to me.

So what is the role of TCG Anadolu actually now? Amphibious Assault Ship (commando carrier in British) to carry out marine assault to the shore, or?

The initial idea was for around 12,000-ton amphibious assault ship, not even envisioned as a single flat deck. When the Spanish offered the Juan Carlos I-class design, the navy decided to go with that option. The navy didn’t even want the ramp, which is now planned to be used by Kızılelma and the TB-3. The Spanish convinced the Turkish Navy to keep the ramp, suggesting that maybe Turkey could acquire Harriers and use the extra volume under the ramp for storage.

I would like to remind you that the navy bought the ship for helicopter operations. I don't think there has been an official declaration yet to procure and use the TB-3 and Kızılelma, but they are saying that if a fixed-wing aircraft capable of taking off and landing from the Anadolu is offered, they will consider buying it.

TCG Anadolu is officially classified as a multipurpose amphibious assault ship, not an LHD or an aircraft carrier, as some people claim. Its main role is amphibious assault.

Original procurement idea would look like something like this:

 

[schuimpjes]

TCG Anadolu is officially classified as a multipurpose amphibious assault ship, not an LHD or an aircraft carrier, as some people claim. Its main role is amphibious assault.

Talking about amphibious assault, is Turkiye really just rely to relatively small Amphibious Marine Brigade for it or maybe Land Forces could be used for amphibious assault too, even though without dedicated training for it like Japanese ARDB?

 

[somegoodusername]

Talking about amphibious assault, is Turkiye really just rely to relatively small Amphibious Marine Brigade for it or maybe Land Forces could be used for amphibious assault too, even though without dedicated training for it like Japanese ARDB?

That brigade was upgraded to a corps by the creation of two new marine infantry brigades a few months ago.

The Naval Forces Establishes a third Marine Infantry Brigade | TURDEF

According to information from the Ministry of National Defence sources, the Naval Forces are establishing a third Marine Infantry Brigade.

turdef.com