TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

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I'm sure this has been said before but these LLMs(Large Language Models) should not be posted as a reliable source of information. They are just chatbots that tries to guess their next token(a fancy auto complete). They have no idea of what you ask of them and they're incredibly sensitive to how you formulate your question. You could make them answer it the opposite of their previous output just by changing the tone of your question. So please beware.

For more in-depth explanation, you could watch the video below

 

[Turkic]

Now we've finally seen Gökhan!!!!

Kaan P1 ???

Picture from gdh Telegram Channel

 

[Oublious]

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Now we've finally seen Gökhan!!!!

Kaan P1 ???

Picture from gdh Telegram Channel

This should be the second Prototype..

 

[Saithan]

If Tolun gets carried to a height and released, does it mean the rocket tube can be recovered for additional use ?

Or is the rocket for Tolun a one time use?

 

[RMZN]

its an old picture:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762804110330306622

 

[Turkic]

its an old picture:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762804110330306622

Did we see the whole picture before ? I haven't seen Gökhan's mock-up till today. savunmasanayist, defenceturk and gdh shared Gökhan in the last 5 hours.

So Kaan is not P1, it's P0.

 

[Oublious]

Did we see the whole picture before ? I haven't seen Gökhan's mock-up till today.

So Kaan is not P1, it's P0.

I was thinking the same, did we all missed Gokhan missile back when we saw the P0 for the first stime?

 

[Sanchez]

I haven't seen Gökhan's mock-up till today

It's not Gökhan or it's an old placeholder design. Images SAGE shared on their website differ from it, mainly the shorter tail fins.

 

[Yasar_TR]

If Tolun gets carried to a height and released, does it mean the rocket tube can be recovered for additional use ?

Or is the rocket for Tolun a one time use?

Bro, the sounding rocket goes up almost vertically to 100km or 200 km. then it comes down to an area close by. Delta-V guys say it is recoverable. The only way is with a parachute.

But if it is delivering Tolun hundreds of kilometres away beyond enemy lines, there is no way to recover it.

 

[Ahlatshah]

Did we see the whole picture before ? I haven't seen Gökhan's mock-up till today. savunmasanayist, defenceturk and gdh shared Gökhan in the last 5 hours.

So Kaan is not P1, it's P0.

Yes it is P0. Coming from TUSAŞ GM

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892883462945984865

 

[Yasar_TR]

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AI based conclusions such as Chat GPT are not to be posted in the forum.

They are full of inconsistencies and mistakes and detract from the healthy discussion medium we enjoy in the forum.

They will be deleted and in the event of persistence, it will attract warnings.

 

[Strong AI]

Our longest-range cruise missile Kara ATMACA

ATMACA UM, in a live-fire test activity, achieved its longest range and longest duration flight, breaking its own record.

May it bring good fortune to our country and our noble nation.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1896125196870029475

 

[Sanchez]

Our longest-range cruise missile Kara ATMACA

ATMACA UM, in a live-fire test activity, achieved its longest range and longest duration flight, breaking its own record.

May it bring good fortune to our country and our noble nation.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1896125196870029475

Very interesting flight profile to be honest. Must be to test out the max range?

Not exactly sure but the TEL looks to be either Koluman Derman or another Mercedes Arocs based frame

Definitely Derman, good.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Does anyone know the Range or how many Kilometers it has covered?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Does anyone know the Range or how many Kilometers it has covered?

We know that the Kara Atmaca had a range in excess of 280km. There were rumours that it had reached 360km range.
But according to Tolga Ozbek’s message in X it has exceeded 400 km in this last test.

And as @Sanchez suggested it is on Derman.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1896134376234131552

ATMACA’dan yeni menzil rekoru – Tolga Özbek

tolgaozbek.com

Roketsan’s Atmaca UM Cruise Missile Breaks New Range Record | TURDEF

ROKETSAN announced that the Atmaca UM land attack cruise missile based on the Atmaca anti-ship missile had broken a new range and flight duration record.

turdef.com

According to this article, Mr Gorgun had already stated that Atmaca was a 400km+ missile.
This test has been carried out after this statement. So As per Tolga Ozbek’s X message content, this 400km + is no longer the maximum range.
That leaves imaginations to wander about what it can be!!

 

[Oublious]

Baykar did tested ther ammunition to...

 

[Sanchez]

Baykar did tested ther ammunition to...

Also interesting, with fixed wings instead and parachuting down. Probably was a test article they wanted to retrieve and not a test munition.

 

[Khagan1923]

So an ATMACA-UM equipped with KTJ-3700 has reached a range over 400KM (acc. to rumours the actual range is around 600KM).

Now what can we expect the range to be for SOM equipped with KTJ-3200
With french engines it was capped at 250KM.

 

[Oublious]

What that was it? No more test video?

 

[dBSPL]

So an ATMACA-UM equipped with KTJ-3700 has reached a range over 400KM (acc. to rumours the actual range is around 600KM).

Now what can we expect the range to be for SOM equipped with KTJ-3200
With french engines it was capped at 250KM.

The speculated 600km offers an incredible engagement radius for a coastal defense battery. If we can also see of anti-surface/ship variant of the TAYFUN TBM too, Turkish A2AD capability will be a game breaker for all near seas. Because we all know that there is a similar breakthrough in air defense in parallel. Both in terms of system development and doctrine.