TR Navy Naval Programs

[TR_123456]

For Our Blue Homeland, We’ve Completed the Fifth Delivery of DENİZHAN! We have added another success to our 2025 delivery achievements of our 76/62 mm Indigenous Naval Gun, produced for the MİLGEM-6 and MİLGEM-7 projects. Including the most recent system produced for MİLGEM-8, we proudly celebrate the delivery of a total of 5 DENİZHAN-76 systems to the Turkish Naval Forces Command.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946204788435419507

So,whats the comparison with the OTO-Melara?

 

[Yasar_TR]

So,whats the comparison with the OTO-Melara?

That is exactly what I was thinking of commenting about.
Oto Melara has two versions of this auto cannon:
“Compact” is with 85 rounds per minute.
“Super Rapid” is with 120 rounds per minute.
It has special guided rounds for munitions like Vulcano and Dart.
Like our Denizhan these cannons are water cooled and use Sea water to do that. As we were producing certain parts of these Italian cannons, we were privy to a lot of in-house know-how. I also remember reading somewhere that the special manufacturing processes we use in the barrel, makes it last a lot longer than the Italian one.

Although our navy has been buying the Super Rapid version for the Ada Class ships and the TCG Istanbul, even though Italians lowered the price to unbelievable levels, we have decided to go ahead with our own. There must be something important strategically that made our decision makers swing from Super Rapid to an indigenous slower cannon.

Our Aselsan’s fire control radar for these cannons are supposed to be exemplary in their precision targeting. This may be part of the reason. See TAKS below

https://wwwcdn.aselsan.com/api/file/SST_TAKS_GFCS_ENG.pdf

 

[Sanchez]

I also remember reading somewhere that the special manufacturing processes we use in the barrel, makes it last a lot longer than the Italian one

I believe that's also because we are using the slower rate of fire as standard on a 70s gun we built with 2020s tech.

There must be something important strategically that made our decision makers swing from Super Rapid to an indigenous slower cannon

I think that's mainly political as we had procurement issues for Istanbul and once the development for KE gun started, arrow had already left the bow as they say.

Our Aselsan’s fire control radar for these cannons are supposed to be exemplary in their precision targeting. This may be part of the reason.

We already use the OTO gun on Istanbul though with no planned replacements so far.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Milli Hücumbot projesinde kritik süreç başladı | SavunmaSanayiST

STM, Türkiye’nin ilk Milli Hücumbot Projesi kapsamında tasarım sürecini tamamladı. Projenin ilk sac kesimi 8 Temmuz’da gerçekleştirildi.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Manufacturing of the Turkish Fast Attack Craft boats is starting.
A model of the latest design will be shown at IDEF.
On 8th of July the first steel cutting was performed.

 

[TR_123456]

Milli Hücumbot projesinde kritik süreç başladı | SavunmaSanayiST

STM, Türkiye’nin ilk Milli Hücumbot Projesi kapsamında tasarım sürecini tamamladı. Projenin ilk sac kesimi 8 Temmuz’da gerçekleştirildi.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Manufacturing of the Turkish Fast Attack Craft boats is starting.
A model of the latest design will be shown at IDEF.
On 8th of July the first steel cutting was performed.
View attachment 76455

How many?

 

[Anmdt]

Milli Hücumbot projesinde kritik süreç başladı | SavunmaSanayiST

STM, Türkiye’nin ilk Milli Hücumbot Projesi kapsamında tasarım sürecini tamamladı. Projenin ilk sac kesimi 8 Temmuz’da gerçekleştirildi.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Manufacturing of the Turkish Fast Attack Craft boats is starting.
A model of the latest design will be shown at IDEF.
On 8th of July the first steel cutting was performed.
View attachment 76455

The image is invalid at least for last 3 years.

 

[Anmdt]

How many?

As many as we could fit within $1B budget. Last time it was 7 x $150M . Maybe we are backing up to 6 x $200M. The first ship is more of a prototype, if it demonstrates all the requirements, the rest of the batch will follow.

 

[Sanchez]

The image is invalid at least for last 3 years.

Their editor is sleeping basically.

This was the latest we got I think.

 

[Anmdt]

Their editor is sleeping basically.

This was the latest we got I think.

View attachment 76456

And i believe STM had better images of this one, published somewhere in a fair - presentation. It was all over the Internet. Yet, i think this design is still obsolote, but dimensions are the same, give or take few inches.

 

[Anmdt]

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STM Savunma | ⚓️Milli Hücumbot STM MPAC🚢 #stmsavunma #shorts

⚓️Milli Hücumbot STM MPAC🚢Ağır deniz koşulları, açık denizler, kıyıya yakın sahalar…Yenilikçi tasarım, gelişmiş radar ve silah sistemleri ile milli hücumbot...

youtube.com

Here;

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1851880720450367816

Last TTHB design made available to the public, and another iteration will be done to satisfy TN.

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Source material:

https://imdecafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Suat-Tozendemir_STM.pdf

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1944452301823115756

Turkey Has Achieved a Historic Success: The First Shooting Tests of the First Domestic and National Double-Barrelled Sea Ball Have Been Successfully Completed!

This strategic project, developed by Koca Defence Technologies, electronics, software and electromechanical systems, is completely domestic engineering +

 

[Sanchez]

What is this then, if that is the first one?

SAVER - İleri Savunma Teknolojileri

Yüksek teknoloji ile harmanlanmış çözümler üreten ileri savunma teknolojileri

www.saver.com.tr

As I understand it Koca Savunma is a subcontractor for Saver, it's the same gun. It's just the bullshit liar click driven drivelist twitter account using nationalist fervor to make money.

 

[Oublious]

As I understand it Koca Savunma is a subcontractor for Saver, it's the same gun. It's just the bullshit liar click driven drivelist twitter account using nationalist fervor to make money.

Did not now that , to much defence posters.....

 

[UkroTurk]

Double-Barrelled Sea Ball

Beach ball

 

[zio]

Afaik the biggest difference is that oto melara has 120 rpm vs. denizhan has 80 rpm.
EDIT
But imo if Aselsan can produce ATOM rounds for denizhan, that should compensate for the rpm difference.

120 rpm is not practical,if once use it,system requires heavy repair.

 

[Anmdt]

120 rpm is not practical,if once use it,system requires heavy repair.

Super rapido doesn't mind, goes patapatapata.

We shouldn't live in dreams with the denial, it is easier to digest and accept that MKE can't do proper R&D to give us the upgrade Super Rapido do. 80 rpm isn't bad either, but there is no point in justifying that. (Like the CIWS they never pulled through).

 

[Sanchez]

Super rapido doesn't mind, goes patapatapata.

We shouldn't live in dreams with the denial, it is easier to digest and accept that MKE can't do proper R&D to give us the upgrade Super Rapido do. 80 rpm isn't bad either, but there is no point in justifying that. (Like the CIWS they never pulled through).

I think we can expect it in the future iterations. But all the contracted 76mms as far as we know are for the regular version. maybe in the far future.

120 rpm is not practical,if once use it,system requires heavy repair.

That's just a claim.

 

[UkroTurk]

120 rpm is not practical,if once use it,system requires heavy repair.

Absolutely. Today rate of fire is not important while we having Laser guided or smart ammunitions.

DRACO 76 mm CIWS has 80 rpm so it is okay with smart ammunitions.
Also its revolver has just 12 rounds.

Edit:

Would you prefer 120 rpm rather than laser guided 76mm?

 

[Anmdt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwNkzATXEAAaJEg?format=jpg&name=large

TF-2000 R3

 

[Sanchez]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwNkzATXEAAaJEg?format=jpg&name=large

TF-2000 R3

They aesa'fied many of the EW radomes on the main mast. Turns out, design was not "final".