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It is an average Round Trip Time latency in satellite communications and not specific to Kızılelma. 100ms RTT is for landlines I believe. I am not sure if the Uluğbey satellite constellation at 510 km altitude will have a better latency, and perhaps it will if the 2 second delay is on the 36000 km geostationery orbit satellites.

I checked the Starlink latency numbers and they are at around 50 ms. If Uluğbey is at 50 ms delay then Kızılelma's prize will have to go up quite a bit. By the way you can't take state of the art latency numbers for granted as they will not sell it to anyone to use in the military.

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You are off by a factor of 10X.

A +2 second latency would put the sattelite on the moon at about 1-lightsecond distance (it varies between 360-405 kkm).

For a geostationary satellite at 36,000 km, the signal delay is about 240 milliseconds round-trip. You can add a few 10's of milliseconds due to processing. Which will put it below 300ms, this is barely playable latency when you play online real-time games but not the end of the world when you engage BVR.
 

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KE fired an A2A missile and hit it’s target!


You know these missiles are accurate. A lot of work has been put into this for more than a decade.

And So is the AESA sensor and the whole fire control architecture.

The validation of missile, electronics and the platform working together in a perfect harmony to deliver an effect at this level after all these decades of foundational work from Aselsan and Tubitak (and now Baykar) would certainly enlighten Turkish defence enthusiasts at home and abroad. Specially if you are an old timer following this for a while.

Theoratically, very few countries in the world has the technical capabilities to do it. And practically speaking it is only USA, PRC and Turkiye. Others (including some European defence giants) doesn't even have the necessary platform and system integration right now.
 
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Future is here and Baykar leads the way. Great way to start a sunday.


Yes!
then have fun with a failed airplane. Don't forget to let the American know before you take off.

please log in.... please log in....please log in...please log in...
 

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You are off by a factor of 10X.

A +2 second latency would put the sattelite on the moon at about 1-lightsecond distance (it varies between 360-405 kkm).

For a geostationary satellite at 36,000 km, the signal delay is about 240 milliseconds round-trip. You can add a few 10's of milliseconds due to processing. Which will put it below 300ms, this is barely playable latency when you play online real-time games but not the end of the world when you engage BVR.
Power electronics do not work at the speed of light.
The latest technology is not readily available for everyone and every application.
 
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How did this model, standing on a 40x40 profile, do this job?

Definitely AI Video.


I curse you all, the paid FETÖ ass crawler.
 
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Zwei Termine dürfen nicht vergessen werden.

1) 17.07.2025 um 10:13 Uhr

2) 28.11.2025


England und Irland sind ebenfalls enthalten. Griechenland fällt aus.
 
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Do we have the internal weapons bay compatible missiles yet, firing from the internal bay should be the next major step for Kızılelma.
 

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Power electronics do not work at the speed of light.
The latest technology is not readily avilble for everyone andevery application.
Luckily, communication does not work with power electroctronics for the actaul communication, they work with radio electronics. Also, the transmitted radio wave is by definition at ligthspeed and it is the same for every single creature in the universe (Einstein's theory of relativity).

So the calculation is simple as 2x36000km / 300000km/s + 0.02s if you round to 2 significant numbers.

You don't need to trust me, just test it yourself at home.

To test, go to an online latency tester, for example https://packetstats.com. you will see that your latency or ping is about 20-200ms when going through multiple nodes in an uncontrolled network like internet. Latency to your own $20 router at home is about 2-5ms. The processing latency in a dedicated multimillion dollar communication equipment like sats are below 1ms.

As a side note, I have worked with and developed both power and high-speed communication electronics at PhD level.
 

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I wonder which missiles can fit in the IWB among the expected new arrivals
  • Bozdoğan
  • Gökdoğan (?)
  • Gökhan (?)
If Gokhan is set to have the same dimensions of the AIM-120D AMRAAM or the Meteor, then most probably all three, based on mission characteristics . if Gokhan has a longer range, meaning bigger then only Gokdogan and Bozdogan. I laways have the idea that Kizielma is small, but it is a big bird .
Imagine a KE with 2 TF10k on MUGEM, loaded with 2 Gokdogan IWB, or Gokhan plus Murad AESA :love:🙏
 

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Luckily, communication does not work with power electroctronics for the actaul communication, they work with radio electronics. Also, the transmitted radio wave is by definition at ligthspeed and it is the same for every single creature in the universe (Einstein's theory of relativity).

So the calculation is simple as 2x36000km / 300000km/s + 0.02s if you round to 2 significant numbers.

You don't need to trust me, just test it yourself at home.

To test, go to an online latency tester, for example https://packetstats.com. you will see that your latency or ping is about 20-200ms when going through multiple nodes in an uncontrolled network like internet. Latency to your own $20 router at home is about 2-5ms. The processing latency in a dedicated multimillion dollar communication equipment like sats are below 1ms.

As a side note, I have worked with and developed both power and high-speed communication electronics at PhD level.
We can still see latency of around 2 seconds during intercontinental TV broadcasts while not as much as it was five years ago. Probably summarized data will travel faster. By the way I was a licensed marine radio-electronic operator in the past and I know radio communication has a lot to do with power electronics unlike home connections, unless things have changed drastically recently which I doubt. Not all intercontinental communication goes over satellite, alot of it goes through ocean cables one should take notice.
 

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