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Parry Brima · Nov 12, 2021

Lordimperator said:
Dont have to wait to war, there are many OSINT that being spectator on the SCS disputes,

Dont forget, we have these

https://media.suara.com/pictures/653x366/2020/01/10/64398-ribut-natuna-5-juta-paranormal-siap-diterjunkan-jika-diperlukan-pemerintah.jpg

Who would win in the battle of Natuna?

I reckon both have similar speed as both can jump.

Umigami · Nov 15, 2021

Shipowners make payoffs to free vessels held by Indonesian navy near Singapore- sources

More than a dozen shipowners have made payments of about $300,000 apiece to release vessels detained by the Indonesian navy, which said they were anchored illegally in Indonesian waters near Singapore, according to sources with direct knowledge of the matter.

www.reuters.com

JATOSINT · Nov 16, 2021

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1460567205792260102

Van Kravchenko · Nov 16, 2021

JATOSINT said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1460567205792260102

Radically converted ?

Nilgiri · Nov 16, 2021

Some torpedo + physics chat for indonesians interested in subject here:

Anti-Surface Warfare (ASuW) - Heavy Weight Torpedoes

I think this is the only dedicated torpedo thread in the forum, so I might as well post this here...and for greater reach to members interested in subject.... Got talking lately about MSP (magnetic self protection) with an old (USN) bud (long retired). When he served (in thick of cold war)...

defencehub.live

It was originally in Turkish torpedo thread, now its split to its own.

flogger · Nov 16, 2021

Van Kravchenko said:
Radically converted ?

Some of lvtp 7 from korea are originaly "ambulance" version

R4duga · Nov 17, 2021

BPK auditing of PT.PAL .

https://www.facebook.com/HumasPTPAL/posts/1794853160685162

"The visit was carried out by BPK RI together with PT PAL Indonesia (Persero) in order to directly review the results of the procurement of batch I submarines, the development of TOT (Transfer Of Technology) for batch I submarines and their outputs as well as the readiness of batch II submarines."

Lordimperator · Nov 17, 2021

R4duga said:
for batch I submarines and their outputs as well as the readiness of batch II submarines."

Hmmm, changbogos? Even canteen guard quite talks about the upcoming sub tender lately

R4duga · Nov 17, 2021

Lordimperator said:
Hmmm, changbogos? Even canteen guard quite talks about the upcoming sub tender

i wonder if the 100 million won/ $85 million discount from the IF-X project have something to do with this.

my hope was continuing the previous 2 additional nagapasa that already have been signed, while also procuring atleast 3-4 new Diesel submarine either from french or jerry.

is this a pressure hull ?

Lordimperator · Nov 17, 2021

R4duga said:
i wonder if the 100 million won/ $85 million discount from the IF-X project have something to do with this.

Make sense, if they make some compromise on the other sector, although its different programmes.

If we continued for changbogos batch ii, are there any room left for scorpene or uboat?

R4duga · Nov 17, 2021

Lordimperator said:
Make sense, if they make some compromise on the other sector, although its different programmes.

If we continued for changbogos batch ii, are there any room left for scorpene or uboat?

even though some PT.PAL source person previously claimed that their current infrastructure can support to build other submarine type, i have a slight doubt about that. (at worst scenario, we need to invest on new infrastructure to build a new type of submarine again)

Lordimperator · Nov 17, 2021

R4duga said:
can support to build other submarine type, i have a slight doubt about that.

Maybe the midget sub, its still counted as submarine right...

R4duga said:
i have a slight doubt about that

So do i,

satria · Nov 17, 2021

Lordimperator said:
Even canteen guard quite talks about the upcoming sub tender lately

Meanwhile ...

Teknologi Kapal Selam & Kebijakan Luar Negeri Para Eksportir

Pengadaan kapal selam mensyaratkan adanya paket offset karena Indonesia memiliki aspirasi politik untuk menguasai teknologi kapal selam.

www.cnbcindonesia.com

Lordimperator · Nov 17, 2021

R4duga said:
2 additional nagapasa that already have been signed

Not 3?

Go for French, with their Li-Ion baguette...

Gary · Nov 17, 2021

Anmdt said:
Any contract between Havelsan and DRU? I still doubt this could be one of the options among the western equilavents and mentioned as a winner in the article.

Havelsan teams up with Thales on Indonesia's 90 m OPV programme

Turkish defence systems company Havelsan is working with Thales Nederland to equip Indonesia's new class of two 90 m offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) with its combat...

www.janes.com

Indos · Nov 17, 2021

Lordimperator said:
Make sense, if they make some compromise on the other sector, although its different programmes.

If we continued for changbogos batch ii, are there any room left for scorpene or uboat?

100 million USD reduction of IFX program for Indonesia is related to overall reduction on KF21/IFX program cost, so it tells that KF21/IFX program so far is still match with previous financing plan and even they think the cost can be slashed further

BBOn · Nov 17, 2021

I seriously thinking, maybe PT. PAL can redesign PKR hull by make it more long and make it more width to accommodate more space for armaments and other system. I wonder, if they can add suprastructure behind the bridge like the hobart class have to accommodate AESA. it would be the next gen sigma and we can call it destroyer.

I know current sigma is proven design but why they not try to push themselves, they already mastered how to build modern warship hull and suprastructure. Adjustments for each modul between frigate and destroyer is not to different. It would be great if we have our own destroyer since only few countries have it. I believe the Navy will be interested ( it use same concept with the hull and little modifications with the Displacement)

As for the AESA, weapon systems and etc we can do tender like Australia did with hobart class.

JATOSINT · Nov 17, 2021

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1461159443081482241

Gary · Nov 17, 2021

BBOn said:
I seriously thinking, maybe PT. PAL can redesign PKR hull by make it more long and make it more width to accommodate more space for armaments and other system. I wonder, if they can add suprastructure behind the bridge like the hobart class have to accommodate AESA. it would be the next gen sigma and we can call it destroyer.

I know current sigma is proven design but why they not try to push themselves, they already mastered how to build modern warship hull and suprastructure. Adjustments for each modul between frigate and destroyer is not to different. It would be great if we have our own destroyer since only few countries have it. I believe the Navy will be interested ( it use same concept with the hull and little modifications with the Displacement)

As for the AESA, weapon systems and etc we can do tender like Australia did with hobart class.

The FREMM and Arrowhead hull already satisfied the needed increase in size fir additional weapons and sensors + the intellectual property of the SIGMA belongs to DSNS.

FREMM and Arrowhead 140 are destroyers in all but name.

Soman45 · Nov 18, 2021

https://www.facebook.com/lembagakeris/posts/4198888083552836

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