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most probably tonight ı will watch it bro! ok defintly ı will :) Obi Wan Darth Vader encounter is an epic event for any Star Wars fan
 
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This new star wars stuff, constantly tries to provide filler bridge material and it ruins parts of the canon IMO.

Vader is very specific (in a New Hope) in saying "I've been waiting for you Obi Wan.....We meet again at last, the circle is NOW complete, when I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master"....

i.e its their first meeting since their parting of ways.

I didn't hear great stuff so far about this new series in general as well....maybe much later I'll give it a try.

But tell me what you think of it after you seen it @Quasar et al.
 

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This new star wars stuff, constantly tries to provide filler bridge material and it ruins parts of the canon IMO.

Vader is very specific (in a New Hope) in saying "I've been waiting for you Obi Wan.....We meet again at last, the circle is NOW complete, when I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master"....

i.e its their first meeting since their parting of ways.

I didn't hear great stuff so far about this new series in general as well....maybe much later I'll give it a try.

But tell me what you think of it after you seen it @Quasar et al.
Big disappointment.
 

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This new star wars stuff, constantly tries to provide filler bridge material and it ruins parts of the canon IMO.

Vader is very specific (in a New Hope) in saying "I've been waiting for you Obi Wan.....We meet again at last, the circle is NOW complete, when I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master"....

i.e its their first meeting since their parting of ways.

I didn't hear great stuff so far about this new series in general as well....maybe much later I'll give it a try.

But tell me what you think of it after you seen it @Quasar et al.
Among so many disasters there were a few good attempts as well, most importantly Star War Rebels which became a part of canon. Rogue One and Mandalorian was kind of fun especially the last episode of Mandalorian in which they restore the honor of Luke.

And I agree at first Vader Obi Wan encounter in episode 6 seems something against canon but guess I cant also say it is certainly against canon. after oder 66 and jedi hunt with inquistors and Vader befor ''A new Hope'' an encounter with Obi Wan is almost inevitable and unavoidable. in episode 6 Vader still calls Obi Wan a master. For Vader to be a master he needs an apprentice and at this point Vader has no apprentice until Star killer.
 
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No, people who organize under the leadership of a man and reject the laws of their country are dangerous, such cult should be forbidden and crushed.
They live in Republic of Türkiye, its laws a secular, accept it or leave, there are enough sharia ruled countries, Turks dont want that kind of stuff.
We have seen what gülen cult has done, we dont need that anymore.
I suppose it is the Canadian in me, but should you not have freedom of relgion/conciousness? When you speak of being secular, and having secular laws there are different models of that, the Laicist approach is but one and is borne out of a very specific cultural context: that of the Catholic Church which was essentially a co-governing force prior to its suppression. There really is no Muslim parallel to such an institution, and the german, english, scandinavian approach to poltical secularity is much more appropriate for a Muslim country as it is more universally applicable.

I am personally of the opinion, though this may not sit well, that the rigid adherence to Laicite and authoritarian secularism is one of Kemalisms betrayals of Ataturk, because it was Ataturk himself who said: "If one day, my words are against science, choose science". The historical data at this point, points toward softer secular models being much more successful at fostering democratic society. It makes sense too: if you want to have a sustainable democracy you can not choke peoples freedom of consciousness.
 

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Allah rahmet eylesin 🥲

Cuneyt Arkin made me proud to be from Eskisehir. Well my parents are from there. Honestly sad news

He was a veteran even if I laughed at his films as a kid when you grow up you realise how important his films were.
 

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Allah rahmet eylesin 🥲

Cuneyt Arkin made me proud to be from Eskisehir. Well my parents are from there. Honestly sad news

He was a veteran even if I laughed at his films as a kid when you grow up you realise how important his films were.
Huzur icinde yatsin.
 

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Today the country lost the last Legend of our cinema, a great human loved by the people, a patriot and role model for many.

Rest in Peace.
 

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My dad told me he grew up with his films.

I think every Turkish dad will say how they tried to be like Cuneyt Arkin.

Because he had everthing a man would dream of.

Good looks, educated, honourable, well mannered, patriotic, bravery along with fighting skills. Seen him with tears in his eyes.
 
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Allah rahmet eylesin 🥲

Cuneyt Arkin made me proud to be from Eskisehir. Well my parents are from there. Honestly sad news

He was a veteran even if I laughed at his films as a kid when you grow up you realise how important his films were.

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KARA MURAT NOOOOOOOOO
 

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I suppose it is the Canadian in me, but should you not have freedom of relgion/conciousness? When you speak of being secular, and having secular laws there are different models of that, the Laicist approach is but one and is borne out of a very specific cultural context: that of the Catholic Church which was essentially a co-governing force prior to its suppression. There really is no Muslim parallel to such an institution, and the german, english, scandinavian approach to poltical secularity is much more appropriate for a Muslim country as it is more universally applicable.

I am personally of the opinion, though this may not sit well, that the rigid adherence to Laicite and authoritarian secularism is one of Kemalisms betrayals of Ataturk, because it was Ataturk himself who said: "If one day, my words are against science, choose science". The historical data at this point, points toward softer secular models being much more successful at fostering democratic society. It makes sense too: if you want to have a sustainable democracy you can not choke peoples freedom of consciousness.
Freedom of religion does not mean you are allowed to reject the laws of the country, these sects break a lot of laws such as marrying multiple wives with religious ceremony or marry off underage people.
These things are clearly illegal in Turkey and freedom of religion does not excempt these people from laws.
 

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Among so many disasters there were a few good attempts as well, most importantly Star War Rebels which became a part of canon. Rogue One and Mandalorian was kind of fun especially the last episode of Mandalorian in which they restore the honor of Luke.

And I agree at first Vader Obi Wan encounter in episode 6 seems something against canon but guess I cant also say it is certainly against canon. after oder 66 and jedi hunt with inquistors and Vader befor ''A new Hope'' an encounter with Obi Wan is almost inevitable and unavoidable. in episode 6 Vader still calls Obi Wan a master. For Vader to be a master he needs an apprentice and at this point Vader has no apprentice until Star killer.

I hold rogue one as a very good effort I enjoyed. Mandalorian the same.

Anyway you first watch this kenobi series.... I just saw a review with ton of spoilers in it (so I wont spoil it for you) ....but I am not going to watch this series as they went with the same ole same ole that ruined the new trilogy IMO.
 

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I am personally of the opinion, though this may not sit well, that the rigid adherence to Laicite and authoritarian secularism is one of Kemalisms betrayals of Ataturk, because it was Ataturk himself who said: "If one day, my words are against science, choose science". The historical data at this point, points toward softer secular models being much more successful at fostering democratic society. It makes sense too: if you want to have a sustainable democracy you can not choke peoples freedom of consciousness.
Without first authoritarian secularism where you force the people to get educated(at least the first 5 grades,until middle school),you cannot have people with consciousness.
The individual will not know what consciousness is.
If Pakistan would have had a decade with M.A.Jinnah,it wouldnt be called Islamic Republic of Pakistan but only Pakistan.
You wouldnt have Sharia Law or Blasphemy Law,village elders wouldnt decide what a person can or cant do,10 year old girls wouldnt be married to who ever.
consciousness?
 

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Without first authoritarian secularism where you force the people to get educated(at least the first 5 grades,until middle school),you cannot have people with consciousness.
The individual will not know what consciousness is.
If Pakistan would have had a decade with M.A.Jinnah,it wouldnt be called Islamic Republic of Pakistan but only Pakistan.
You wouldnt have Sharia Law or Blasphemy Law,village elders wouldnt decide what a person can or cant do,10 year old girls wouldnt be married to who ever.
consciousness?
The the exact problem of ''conscious population'' is at display here as he probably admires the sharia law in his country.
 

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