Azerbaijan Armenia Tensions
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He has not fulfilled the preconditions.
1. Change the constitution, where Karabakh is listed as Armenian
2. Achieve the dissolution of the Minsk Group
3. Open the Zengezur corridor
He wants to do all this, but is afraid of losing power.
Meanwhile, he has little time.
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There is no such alliance. The US is closer to Armenia
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Interesting development. The increased military activity and cargo flights could be an indication that something is brewing, though it's hard to say for sure. Tensions in the region are definitely high. It kind of reminds me of how fat jokes can start as light-hearted fun, but they can quickly spiral into something more serious if not handled carefully.
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There is no such alliance. There is an American-Israeli military alliance. It is absurd to imagine us as an ally of the USA. If America was the first country to impose sanctions against my country - an embargo prohibiting the sale of any military equipment to us, how can they be our allies?
The USA, a few months after recognizing our state independence, imposed sanctions against us. The meanness is that they punished not the aggressor - Christian Armenia, but us - a Muslim country, a victim of aggression. Moreover, they prohibited all their allies from selling us weapons.
But, as they say, there is no place for grievances in politics, and if the American side decides, then we will not escape this fatе - to become their ally
Contrary to popular belief, we are also not in an alliance with Israel, if this term is understood as a military alliance. Israel is simply one of the few countries that agreed to sell us weapons.
That's the whole "secret" of our non-existent alliance.
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Yeah, the US is "tolerating" Azerbaijan because Israel keeps the US on a tight leash.
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The US-Israel-Azerbaijan "alliance" isn't really an official alliance per se, but they have been building a pretty strong working relationship in recent years, especially in terms of defense, energy, and regional security. Azerbaijan and Israel have been growing their military ties, with Azerbaijan buying a lot of advanced weapons from Israel—especially drones and missile defense systems. The US is also involved here, with intelligence sharing and occasional joint military exercises. Since all three countries are concerned about Iran’s influence in the region, there’s a lot of alignment in that area.
Also, Azerbaijan is stuck in this weird spot geographically—it's right next to Iran and Armenia, so it has to balance relationships. But it has definitely moved closer to the West in recent years, partly because of its strategic importance. The US and Israel both see Azerbaijan as a key partner for regional stability and countering Iran.
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Officially relation with Iran is ok but unofficially no trust in Iran and vice versa the same.Thanks mates
What is Azerbaijanian attitude to Iran and Iranian to Azerbaijan and Amenia
As you know Iran has good relations with Armenia,even tried some stupid things like massing up soldiers on the border when Azerbaijan retook the border regions with Iran.
Not that Iran can do anything against Azerbaijan however it will try anything to make it difficult for Azerbaijan as it did to us in Iraq and Syria all these years.
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first read about some secret alliance between the US, Israel and Azerbaijan against Iran 18 years ago.
Since then, there has been a lot of talk. Mostly empty.
The "secret alliance" of these three countries is mostly a "product" of the imagination of sensationalist journalists.
Aliyev has never been to Washington!
He has never been to Israel!
A strange alliance, isn't it?
Especially considering that the President of Azerbaijan will make a state visit to China today.
Although the US clearly looks like a decrepit hegemon, Trump should not despair, he still has a chance
Regardless of our relations with the US, Israel or any other countries, Turkey will always be our number one priority. This has been the case for all these 33 years of our independence, and it will be so. From the very beginning, we have had a coordinated foreign policy with Turkey on many issues. By the way, all countries except Canada
have known about this for a long time.
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Ah yes, the ol’ "secret alliance is just journalist fantasy" angle. Classic. Look, nobody’s saying there’s some signed blood pact between the US, Israel, and Azerbaijan with matching tattoos and secret handshakes. But pretending there’s nothing going on? That’s a bit rich, yeah?first read about some secret alliance between the US, Israel and Azerbaijan against Iran 18 years ago.
Since then, there has been a lot of talk. Mostly empty.
The "secret alliance" of these three countries is mostly a "product" of the imagination of sensationalist journalists.
Aliyev has never been to Washington!
He has never been to Israel!
A strange alliance, isn't it?
Especially considering that the President of Azerbaijan will make a state visit to China today.
Although the US clearly looks like a decrepit hegemon, Trump should not despair, he still has a chance
Regardless of our relations with the US, Israel or any other countries, Turkey will always be our number one priority. This has been the case for all these 33 years of our independence, and it will be so. From the very beginning, we have had a coordinated foreign policy with Turkey on many issues. By the way, all countries except Canada
Let’s call a spade a spade: Azerbaijan’s been loading up on Israeli weapons like it’s Black Friday at Canadian Tire - drones, missile systems, surveillance gear, you name it. That’s not “empty talk,” that’s cold hard arms deals, backed by receipts and battlefield footage you and I can watch together.
And just ’cause Aliyev hasn’t done the DC or Tel Aviv photo-op circuit doesn’t mean coordination isn’t happening. Not everything in foreign policy is about flashy visits and grip-and-grins. The US and Azerbaijan have shared airspace, intelligence, and logistics—especially when it came to ops in Afghanistan and keeping an eye on Iran. That’s called functional cooperation, not make-believe.
As for the “he’s visiting China so clearly the West is out” take—please.. Countries, especially ones like Azerbaijan in a tight geopolitical spot, play all sides. It’s not betrayal, it’s basic diplomacy. Azerbaijan isn’t swearing loyalty to Beijing—it’s hedging bets, like any smart country does. You think Canada doesn’t trade with China while also being buddy-buddy with the US?
And sure, Turkey's the big bro in the neighborhood, nobody’s arguing that. But being tight with Turkey doesn’t mean you forget the rest of the world here. Azerbaijan's been running a multi-vector foreign policy for years and that's because they have to.
Whether or not Trump’s got a shot is another story, but one thing’s for sure: these so-called “imaginary” alignments tend to show up in real budgets, real exercises, and real arms shipments. Not exactly unicorns and fairy tales.
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Yeah, Aliyev is a bastard but he is a competent bastard.
Turkey and Azerbaijan are in completely different scenarios
The only reason Azerbaijan can freely act is due to Turkey's protection and blessings while there is no nation strong enough to protect Turkey from monsters like Israel and the US
Turkey has major problems with Israel, Greece, Cyprus, Iran, Russia, US, and the PKK while the Azeris' only problems are Iran and Armenia. Iam sure you can find out which country has an easier time dealing in foreign policy
Moreover, Azerbaijan has a smaller population and lots of gas reserves to sell which gives them lots of profits to wiggle through possible sanctions and whatnot while majority of Turkey's potential gas reserves are being claimed by the Greeks, Greek Cypriots, and the PKK all such nations are being backed by monsters such as the US
If anything, Iam still surprised that Turkey managed to throw Assad, Russia, and Iran out of Syria while the US has actually started its troop withdrawal from many Syrian bases
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You can't seriously be spewing out shit like that mate. Do you seriously think the rabid reaction the populistic moves of AKP is benefitting Türkiye ?
This isnt about the AKP or any other party and Iam not saying that the AKP's populistic moves are benefiting Turkey.
All what Iam saying is that the stages on which Azerbaijan and Turkey are playing on are completely different
Azerbaijan enemies are fewer, most of its resources are within state control, and doesnt have major ethnic issues while Turkey has more enemies that are stronger, more diverse and belong to different camps so Turkey cant clearly take sides, most of Turkey's resources, unlike the Azeris, are literally under semi-occupation and the Turks have an ethinic kurdish issue ongoing for the last 30-40 years if not more
The stakes, the games being played, and the cards available are just too different to allow even some sort of comparison between both nations
If anything, the fact that the 50-years old Assad dictator, mighty Russia, and cunning Iran were kicked out of Syria is a major win and it still baffles me tbh. Rn, the US is pulling most of its troops as well; whom do you think is gonna benefit from that?
The fact that the PKK, which was stable, safe, and winning 7+ months ago, is now on tight ropes is an undeniable fact and the fact that they lost the Tisrin dam (which is the last defensive line to SDF areas) is a major loss that may even prevent the SDF from even pulling any uprisings
Turkey did it all on its own; without any nation support, meanwhile Azerbaijan's territorial integrity was brough to fruition thx to Turkey and Israel
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Yeah, Azerbaijan's juggling of foreign relations with Iran, Georgia, America, Russia and China are totally because of Turkey's "protection". Not to shit on Turks, we are grateful to them for many things but our current standing on the world stage is not because we just did whatever because big brother Turkey will protect us.
Turkey only has a major problem with Israel because of AKP's moronic handling of foreign policy. Aliyev actually criticized Israel for their handling of Palestine and we officially support a two-state solution yet we don't have the problems that Turks have because we don't go around pissing off other countries for zero gain. And Azerbaijan had separatist issues too but solved them and what's more, we didn't let them get out of hand again. We have like 8-10 different ethnic groups that make up major segments of our population FFS.
Our gas reserves really aren't that big compared to other major producers and if you think a major reason we aren't in political deep shit like Turkey is because of gas profits then I have two bridges and a skyscraper to sell you. And if anything Turkey's larger population size should give it an advantage in international negotiations. I mean a major part of the reason why countries like China and India wield major influence is because of their insanely huge populations.
I'm going to refrain from a more hostile response but man, you really do love talking about stuff that you have no idea about.
