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The plot seems to be fairly transparent to me. Is Kotil being pressurised to get Kaan into the air against his better judgement? Why was GTU-0 repurposed from static test bed unless it was to roll Kaan out to the nation early? I presume that taking GTU-0 out of commission as a test bed would...

Is he being pressurised to announce good news prematurely?

It's a case of availability versus certainty (plus cost), isn't it? Kaan with an indigenous engine looks to be quite a few years away from availabiity but will bring certainty of serviceability. F-16 should be available sooner but without certainty of ongoing serviceability (risk of US parts...

Qatar ordered 24 Eurofighter. First delivery was August 2022. The UK assembly line at Warton had delivered 12 by August 2023. As far as I know the Qatari aircraft are the only aircraft left to be assembled at Warton. RAF orders were completed in 2019. Italian air force orders were completed in...

I recall that when the wing load test was applied to A380 (150% of maximum load it was ever expected to encounter in service), the wing failed at 147%. Had it reached 150% but not failed, would it have been considered serviceable thereafter? What was GTU-0 subjected to in tests before being...

It could be useful to find out for sure if Eurofighter can be supplied. If so - LM does not have a potential captive customer (so cannot charge highest price) - political risk of future supply cuts is altered (possibly lower than with US) - Eurofighter delivery may be much faster than F-16 delivery

Is the block on EF supply being lifted? I reckon that Turkiye should establish the answer. If EF supply to Turkiye can be unblocked, what about just buying the F-16 kits and Eurofighters? I don't recall which Eurofighter partner country is allocated marketing to Turkiye. If it is the UK, UK...

Frame #0 was supposed to be a static test frame??? It sounds like it got waylaid somewhere along the line by non-engineering considerations.

Thanks for the info, all concerned. If the aircraft being built are what would be best described as technical demonstrators, that paints a different picture of the project to the one that I was seeing.

I defer to your better knowledge. However, from the mouth of the head of TAI in mid- December I heard that TAI were still aiming for the 27th December as FF date. In January I heard FF would be in days IIRC. No mention that CDR had been completed. No mention of waiting for completion of CDR...

I don't understand. Why build a first prototype, roll it out, taxi it around but wait until a second prototype is built before flying the type?

I am aware that CDR acceptance is normal before embarking on prototype building. As far as I know Kaan development does not fit the norm. Having built the first prototype, what would be the point of waiting to fly it if it is ready to fly and start gathering flight performance data? Perhaps it...

Your assessment of probability is unusual. My understanding is that the prototypes being built are design development airframes, subject to change, rather than 'identical' aircraft to test a frozen design. Out of curiosity, a prototype aircraft exists that moves under its own power on the...

I think that you would do well to look at Indian news media and forums to get an idea of how much of a shambles Indian procurement is. Why are many projects botched? see above. A couple of examples using what you mentioned: The Marut was designed to be a supersonic fighter to be powered by...

I think that KF-21 and Kaan are planned for a production rate of 20 a year. If, for example, Philippines wanted to order, would KAI raise the production rate? Same thing could be asked if a country wanted to order Kaan in its early production years.

Until a contract between India and Dassault is signed including exactly what is required of a new engine, what techologies are to be transferred from Safran, workshare breakdown, cost etc - it's not a done deal. I will not be surprised if CCS approval is stalled until after engine contract...

I would have thought that Turkiye, with a number of engines planned for the future, might have started a project to build a flying engine testbed. Going back a few years A340's could be bought for next to nothing. PS I believe that an airworthy A340 retired in favour of the much more efficient...

In that case it sounds like the company developing the engine will need to buy in flying testbed testing on a foreign OEM's testbed aircraft unless Turkiye wants to develop and build one itself.

Perhaps this 2028 'fly on Kaan' date means using a Kaan as a flying testbed (1 x F110 + 1 x T35kN)?

Does anybody seriously believe that Kaan will fly with a domestic engine before the 2030's? The 2028 target is based on what? Optimism of the most extreme order, I think. Or nothing at all - just a convenient, fictitious date. Is there some need to convey the impression that if the US blocked...