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  1. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    Yeah, you are right. It seems Radonsider's picture really belongs to Atak 2 though it is very different than what we saw in 3D and mock-ups. We have to wait to understand what TAI really aims for in that design.
  2. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    I disagree about Hürkuş. It is not ''problematic'', of course. But if Hürkuş had fully met the requirements of TURAF, the Hürkuş 2 project would not have been made. Users tell about what they want in their products and companies carry out these projects according to these requirements, as you...
  3. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    Of course. But we are just arguing with the data we have so far which is the point of forums. It should not be forgotten that engineers are also human just like us and they can make mistakes too. Otherwise, the Hürkuş 2 project wouldn't be carried out right now. Or we can look at the UK's AFV...
  4. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    I understand, but I didn't see any source about that. If there is, ı would really appreciate it.
  5. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    Is there any news about that? It looks like a leak. If you look at the design details and lines, you will see that it is matching with T-629, not Attack II.
  6. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    This seems to belong to the T629.
  7. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    I don't remember seeing anything like this before. This is the initial concept design released by TAI in 2017. Mock-up: Picture taken from TAI's animation: Another mock-up: 3D image from TAI's website:
  8. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    The FLIR and machine gun location would create the problem not only because of distortion of FLIR's image quality but also the approach angle which is a bigger problem in my opinion. As far as I understand, as the helicopter moves forward, they tilt their noses down and meanwhile, the machine...
  9. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    Well if so, will see that in the shooting tests. :p
  10. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    When I saw these for the first time, I said ''this is how an attack helicopter should be''. But here we are. I really don't understand why the frontal design changed so much. I mean, the place of FLIR and machine gun doesn't make sense at all while even ordinary people know this, it sounds...
  11. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    That was what I was talking about. It is not about rivets on the body or something like that. When high-res pics were released, we talk again. But this is not matching with the usual TAI quality at all in my opinion.
  12. Sanders

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    This is the prototype of AH-64: And this is today's AH-64: As we can see there are countless changes in the design, especially in the frontal sections and this is a very usual thing. Prototypes and serial productions are always very different. So I am very sure that the product in the...
  13. Sanders

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Kızılelma will probably use AI-322F for the twin-engine variant in the prototypes and may be in the first batches. But I can't see any reason for not using TEI's engine since it will be better in all aspects, especially as regards thermal characteristics. For such a high-tech and (relatively)...
  14. Sanders

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Kızılelma with the 2X TEI TF-10000 engine, Gökhan BVR missile, TRG-230-IHA ammunition, Çakır mini cruise missile -and maybe a derived and lighter version of ATMACA anti-ship missile (like TRG-230-IHA ) for Kızılelma and ANKA III- and TOYGUN EOTS will be very deadly, that's sure. It promises a...
  15. Sanders

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    Thank you(y)
  16. Sanders

    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I have seen some comments about Mr. Kotil's ''2028'' statements and I felt the need to explain some things about TF-X's engine development process. Firstly, the engine to be developed will have nothing to do with the F110. We are not trying to build a clone of F110. Even if we try, from the...

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