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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    If gripen got choose it will make headache the AF, but at least is a better airframe than f16 block 52, wich is similiar with pakistan has
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    the same reason we want some secondhand ships, do we have interest for them?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    are they willing to sold them to us?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    is there any progress for wedgetail or Orion?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    the Italian ships looks more intimidating, I'm glad they choose over french frigates
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    beside submarine stuff what else the German offer to us?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    they only thinking from technical and finance perspective, ignoring from historic and political aspect, the reason why we have sukhoi in our inventory, old chinese phase says " never put all your eggs in one basket " doesn't applies for them apart from meteor and scalp I hope we can get both...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    i rarely visit lowy*t, but I often visit defen*talk, sometimes they have a quality discussion, on other round when they talk about MoD or politics I think they bit too far.
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    https://www.defenc*talk.com/military/forums/t/indonesian-aero-news.9220/page-103#post-381371 since the poster is Singaporean and and well know with the US system then its quite understanable when he push TNI-AU to get viper for the sake of commonality and interoperability, but when he talks...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    some poster in def*talk gives his opinion about our rafale aquisition , he seems clear mind and reasonable about price, logistic, training and interoperability but then carried out when he's talk about MoD, as a supporter for rafale aquisition what is your opinion to counter f16v, what make...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    good news indeed, i hope ffm have a chance for next 8 frigate
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    maybe part of loan from France spending must be made in france aquisition, personally why dont go for FREMM , gowind some kind of nanggung, Japanese ffm have better platform
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    hmm looks like old procurement before ffx and fremm got consideration, also 48 rafale, last time i see the from france side is 36 unit and no hornet on our latest list
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    with 1.1 us bio we could buy secondhand f15 better than thypoon in long term, imo
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    hope the gov know what they doing, if they accept it I'm agree with you, they sailing path should be under our supervision by creating some corridor for their vessel
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    i don't like it either, I know this is humatarian effort, but accepting their research vessel not a wise decision
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    the goverment should not listen to people who say ,"there's will be no war in next decades" even I can call them as a traitor
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    that channel affiliate with ahelvas
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    i won't be suprissed if there is some contract signed in 1st of april

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