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That's why i never oppose a what if scenarios discussion . While the expectation has always to be kept low ... The dream plan and future vision should always be encouraged . We should always prepared for any and all an eventuality 👍👍 What could i say ... We are living in these interesting...

What his trying to say is ... High pressure gun were requires a total redesign/rebuilt of the harimau chassis . While low/med pressure were still within the tolerance level after some shock absorber modification . Not to mention like @Madokafc have said the current gun was allready deadly enough...

Maan ... I wish i coud wholeheartily join the discussion above . And yet , looking at our economic condition and the our state purse get emptier because of this neverending pandemic .... As long as those AH 140 , Fremm and the mogamis could come fully specced and loaded ... I've contented...

We will get there eventually . It's a long time journey and we are barely start to walking in after decades of neglects and corruptions . Let's start with an actual working amphibious IFV class first before we aim to upgunning this platform . I will be honest .... IMHO , Sprut SD's like class...

I'm not trying to disparage anybody here . Every thought and ideas were counted in the open discussion . Yes , he is confusing us much with his insinuated writing yet his point are not without merit . Things are still within gray area at this point of time . Even blind idiot knows ..... Invasion...

In essence .. you are simply explain the thing that me and FPXAllen are trying to convey here .. In cost benefit ratio alone between drone web netting and submarine threats the cost were obvious . Between maintenancing a pseudo carrier fleet and spread around submarine naval base and...

I seconded this .... Everything was " remote controlled " were always prone to hijacking and hacking . Let us be honest here .... We are the inferior one here . Let's put more an achievable and tangible goals .

Well , i believe in the current global political situation we could get it tho' ... Cheaply too . Yet , It takes a lot of sacrifices be it economicaly , political and " bebas-aktif ideology and put us straight into the mainland crosshair and get level up from a mere political nuisance entity...

Round and round we go .....without the wisdom were ever mentioned or granted . What a waste of my time .... 🚴🚴🚴💨💨💨

Well , even after all of these years and changing times . 08 would always be 08 ... Premium stuff or nothing at all !! ☕☕

Yo , genious .... When did i ever mentioned that i support rafale's acquisition ?? Show me the proof of it .... Sure , it was a fine specimen yet their price's tag is giving a shivers down to my spine ... Common sense are dictating us to streamline our inventory for a maintenance ease yet...

Sigh ... What are the point you are trying to make here ?? Should we go back and buy those SU 35 regardless the consequence or what ?? by the tone of your answer i get the impression that you store some genious idea for the rest of us pleb's enlightment here .... Go on roll your dice please ...

Sigh .... Dude , the only reason those eagles hasn't landed yet was purely because we never show them the money as yet ... !! Keseimbangan kawasan my ass ... While in the F 35 case , obviously were a bridge too far today for us/RI who always notoriusly known as " Independent player " or...

This is turn into political .... But , let me entertain you for a bit . You said she was medle on everything and anything . Yet , dude .... I say it was a matter of persfectives here . Who say she is not encouraged by jkw to do that ?? If SMI were so strong and powerfull . Trust me for saying...

Ever heard check and balances ?? Dream big was allways encouraged . But without a sound financial capability to back your dreams .... All of those dreams and grand ideas were nothing but morning wet dream .

Dude , did you really so naively to believe that a strategic export articles in military stuffs was comparable and identical to the articles that issued to the military of said origin country ?? Did you ... ?? Compare that with the latest j series that get churned weekly by those mainlander ...

To be honest ....Caatsa was blessing in disguise for us . Like it or not SU 35 export version was not relevant in today environment and challenges.... And some theatrical and dramas were a neccesity to soothe things up

Today shells reach was allready at 40-50 km range . So , there is a lot of things to we have to catch up ...

Everybody has their own judgment and bias yet with her credential and capabilities today ?? She doesn't need to dip her toe in the murky water of indonesia's politic just to get the thing she want or desire ... You guys are simply so underestimates her and give her a too litle credit for her...

I Second to this .... Bigger platform = bigger coverage , loading capability , future upgrade choices and longer endurance .. Make the best decision with the most of our scarce ( if availabke !! ) money