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  1. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Bukan, as you probably know its a "Subcon" did.
  2. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    If its up to me i just go on full japanese system, electronicly, and weaponary package as sam as they operate their 30FFM.
  3. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    True but as i recal at the time " lagi panas masalah pesawat bekas " issue so the idea is decline , than A 400 come up to alter but again the real issue is " Ati Karep bondo cupet " . Regard
  4. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    We actualy had requested to procure C 17 back then but at the time there only 1 unit avallable to purchase becouse they have closed the production line
  5. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Wait aiman tweet is like hoping that such contract is not awarded to china oem's right...? So why are you hoping the china sfuff..??
  6. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    12.7 kari nemplek no wae kok di gawe riewuh hadeuh its true that is hard to please milenial citizen nowdays😄
  7. flogger

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Coba yang ringan ringan dulu baca buku karangan dukut imam widodo
  8. flogger

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Jare mu lak an bro 🤣 jare sing jaluk ora mobil keren kui 🤣🤣 masio mung gawe pajangan ngarep omah sebelah kandang pitek 🤣🤣
  9. flogger

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Engko ono sing di tinggal kui 😎
  10. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Well like freem use taseo so ffm wil use ssm, than will be an CAAM -ER like used with one of bung tomo class and for aster 15/30 well.....no not for now they asked for it but they say no
  11. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    For them love is just a losing game. Secrifices is necesary to achive their goals,And it seem's normal.regarding what will they regrate after ward. Gues i talked to much 🤔🤐🤫
  12. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    As i said F 15 and rafale is green light regard
  13. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    May be it a price tag for the mock up 🤣 And why mikoyan gurevich is pushing tnei own model my wild gues is becouse the presdir OF UAC is A MiG presdir For su-35 contract is " come into force" and from what i hear its will eventualy come and you must been known the intelek tual actor behind...
  14. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    It just a kind of marketing language
  15. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    😁 well there are F15 J on the market and they is more than enugh or capable to just carry maverick and amraam i supposed😁
  16. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Its more less what i am try to said its why they ( US ) didn't Offer F-15 for the first place lot of new sensitif core tech high tech that they implement on EX also they itended F-15 for the Need of USAF first. It's US ( Indo MoD ) who see this as " oppurtunety " after get rejected to procure...

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