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And ToT was present too

We preferred the Chinese system over Russian and US systems

That's because of F110, not sensor fusion etc

Slower acceleration

https://www.turdef.com/Article/british-giant-bae-systems-wants-to-deepen-relations-with-turkish-tf-x/2372 BAE systems wants cooperation in prototyping and serial production phase, and I see hints of further Tempest cooperation in the article

it is not a fully improvement but tradeoff

I don't think that missiles would be that different, nor the missile subsystems, the main difference will be TELs, links and radar systems

I wonder if they didn't like the original Hisar/Siper series

So essentially Indonesian Hisar.

Then what, every Indonesian defence expert claimed it was Hisar, even MoD says it's Hisar.

Then F-35 is not 5th gen?

In some areas, I am 99% sure we are better, but we can't trust them, we have seen Russians so it is good to be skeptical

Huh what, it will have sensor fusion...

i think he meant 2nd F119 class

Yes, the link is from an official gov. site, I suppose

Are those ships Turkish made/designed?

İbrahim Sünnetçi, sadly his Twitter got taken down

Tayfun is already AShBM tho

Possibly this is the case, tho I thought Siper Block 2 would be Siper Block 1 with naval usage, so that's why I classified Siper Block 1 with similar capabilities with PAC-3 MSE/Aster-30, but yours also make sense, probably more realistic than mine

Sorry for too many "reply" and thread like posts but I think doing this with editing would make the additions get lost. As I said with my previous post, Siper should be more advanced than we know, to have Exo-atmospheric, AND in 2026. What I wonder, does the current, or 150km Block 1 variant...