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  1. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    God I love vulgar political discourse lol Founding Father of our country, Marshal Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (durağı Uçmak olsun) cannot be equated with primitive fundamentalist cavemen. However, arguing over who is considered a terrorist or not is a waste of time if not counterproductive. All...
  2. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    Fathers' rights are a serious issue. Whole alimony, divorce and child custody stuff is very hostile against males in Turkey. They take away men's children and hope. Might as well throw him in prison. That's honest-to-god state oppression in my book. Other side of this argument houses very...
  3. YeşilVatan

    TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Technically, yes. Politically, suicide move. Russia is the current great evil. Also, our geostrategic interests are conflicting. Plus they bombed our soldiers.
  4. YeşilVatan

    TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

    That would still take 2 years to configure, test etc. in a best case scenario. But if everything goes south, I believe it would be a solid alternative actually.
  5. YeşilVatan

    TR Air Defence Programs

    Dope until you actually need to bomb stuff and US doesn't give passwords.
  6. YeşilVatan

    TR Defence Exports & Updates

    Drop some sanctions on them and then we'll speak lmao Seriously, though. Spain's shipbuilding industry is really good and Netherlands does a lot of high-tech subsystems. These countries are successful because they specialize and fill necessary niches in the gargantuan western military...
  7. YeşilVatan

    TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Bro that's kidding yourself. F-22 will be the best fighter jet well into the 2030s. Do you really think Americans wouldn't upgrade their super-duper fighter jet since 90s? MMU will be a wonder and change the game, but not by being the best. It will be mediocre at first, and gradually one of the...
  8. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    I remember reading Hezbollah used to cut girls' legs with razors when they just wore regular jeans in Diyerbakır. ISIS level idiocy and zealotry. Both AKP and the opposition are determined to find how much votes they can lose. It would be truly hilarious if it wasn't so destructive.
  9. YeşilVatan

    TR Economy & Updates

    Yeah, they've gone full soviet.
  10. YeşilVatan

    TR Turkey's Internal Counter-Terrorism Operations

    What you say doesn't contradict what I say. This new-age quasi-religion can infect social life to an immeasurable extent while keeping up the aesthetics. I'm talking about "The Turkish Republic will probably continue with its flag and symbols but Turkish nation will die" kind of stuff. Just...
  11. YeşilVatan

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    Only thing Tayyip improved in this entire universe is Turkish state policy on cigarettes. His performance on all other issues ranges from not enough to catastrophic failure. He is also from rize. He can't ever be based.
  12. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    I will never vote for Erdoğan because: Ergenekon-Balyoz sham trials So-called peace process (açılım) Mismanagement of economy Massive nepotism I don't like his mustache He's from Rize I will never vote for Kılıçdaroğlu because: He's gonna lose anyways Ekmeleddin scandal Presence of people...
  13. YeşilVatan

    TR Turkey's Internal Counter-Terrorism Operations

    This phonomenon is eerily similar to Christianization of the Roman Empire. Whole thing is a religion which makes it super dangerous, but it also has a racial angle which makes it super duper dangerous. These people should be pushed out of social life and marginalized, rightfully.
  14. YeşilVatan

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    Cappest cap to ever be capped.
  15. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    People who still think the opposition even has a chance are wrong. This has three main reasons: For a large segment of the conservative voters (about %40 +-5) Kılıçdaroğlu is a subject of hatred. He is a hallmark name like satan or dajjal. People blame him for problems, even when he has...
  16. YeşilVatan

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    it's $10 bro. We are squeezed and exploited for everything we have. This is your new reality. And it will not get any better.
  17. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    That's how geopolitics work. A quick example would be German NGOs financing left-liberal journalists in Turkey. Why? They want refugees staying in Turkey, but Turkish public doesn't want it, so they manufacture consent. Economically meh, geostrategically, no. EU hates Turkey being able to...
  18. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    Reducing corruption by about 30% and cutting unnecessary spendings by about %80 would solve most short term economic problems. And yes, I believe that.
  19. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    A part of me believes that once a candidate that is not set up for failure (a.k.a. a Kılışdar plant), opposition has a chance against Erdoğan. Meanwhile CÊXÂP can yell "harder daddy" to their imaginary kurdish voterbase. All it will result is pushing more undecided into İYİ's arms. Only deciding...
  20. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    Both Yavaş and İmamoğlu have proven themselves unreliable and short-sighted. They decided to be toy soldiers standing guard for Kılıçdaroğlu's house of cards. Where there is a will, there is a way. I firmly believe İYİ has a solid chance of becoming the main opposition in the parliament. Partly...

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