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Any portable ranged anti-armour and anti air weaponry is a must have item for our grunt so they could be the anvil when get hammered and tip of the spears when we thrusting our advances .. And yet , without an adequate support like a modern CS4IR , logistic and industrial prowes behind the...

My only hope is the Iver program could run more smoothly and on budget so we could gradually upgraded and upscaled the Iver class in batches . Bigger and stronger variant that Could be tailored more suited to our specific need and discretion . Who knows .... Perhaps in the future all the sensor...

Well , babcock aren't really at the loss as yet tho' . Iver programme are still going in strong with PAL involvement . The final configuration hasn't been released as yet . So , don't count any chicken as yet .... And soon " bantingan " will be going in strong !!

Angel iki koyo'e ... ☕☕

Naaah ..... If it wasn't for 08 . There is litle chance fremm get noticed by indonesian public at all . Add that with our dissapointment at Damen side as an impetus for finding a new suplier or else It was the Omega class that would bag this contract . Somehow i'm still imagining about some one...

Mainland steel are come cheaper than us , dude !!

Iver are still going strong ... Where on earth you could find an example where contract are signed and paid yet the final design still haven't been validated as yet ... 😁 We don't know about that as yet ... Things ( final configuration ) hasn't been finalized as yet .... So we are still...

There is a lot of problem to adressed and yet we all know we won't have any answer until later date .... 1 . Otomat teseo vs exocet 2 . Millenium CIWS vs double forty 3 . Thales vs leonardo ... 4 . How much contribution from our local industry to shared Sigh ... And many other to consider ...

It will progressed eventually . Compared to the poland borsuk atleast we are one step ahead of them if we discounting their own indigenous turret . there is so much we could explore from the basic MT hull ... and all the variant we could churned off from it . Metal forging is the only thing...

My only beef on this expansion plan aside from the source of money is how litle concern or attention to the state of our artillery branches . We lacked the ranged unit so much it blows my mind that no body pay attention to elephant in the room . While it was presenting an unique opportunity to...

There isn't any free 2A4 available anymore . Everybody holding it tight as a last resort reserves even as broke as they were . Not everybody as guilible as the dutch do ... Unless we willing to fork some decent money for a used 2A6 better to get a fresh from oven 2A7 instead ...

Isn't the AF are still pitching in for their KOHANUDNAS elements ?? And both make a compelled argument for it too .... Nothing but a fanfare ..... Yet , this is Indonesia Ceremonial matter are part and parcel of life to be had .... Sigh

This could lead to some serious defamation charges isn't it ?? One thing for sure ...... Things are surely akward in the police station these days 😁😁

We are nothing but plebs but jagarin take things too far when he publish/release his own interpretation and conjuction all solely by his own assumption . We all love to gossip and mock each other while silently collecting juicy rumours . but presenting an assumption article to public and yet...

Don't listen to him . Atleast Alman helvas was a former jane associate while jagpan was a pure dreamer . Mind mastubator on stereoid . He is persistent tho' .... 😂😂

Well , the ( big ) man are demanding for a new articles . Take that as you will ...

This kind of a litle akward to post . But to think Tribun timur could dig someone else WA history chat and posting it online kinda make a pause for a moment there .. We need some serious compilating moment for a second here

Yet , a certain people are always insistently citing the excuse as a tactical neccesity .... 😁

Bengek bayarnya cuy ..... 😭😭 Then again .... Complain to to the owner of Tahvava industries are seem pointless at this frame of time anyway .... Ngopi sik lah ....☕☕

Let us all hope for the best .... Subversive's time are still fresh in my memory