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That 3 barrel gatling is 20mm, a single barrel 20mm would have very low firerate like 300-400 rpm. M197 is 750-1500 rpm. 6 barrel M61 is 6000 rpm.

It has been teased that there is another version of Göksur with a mystery launcher configuration for FAC, so that was Sapan?

Two sealth fighters likely won't engage in BVR against each other. But many countries won't have stealth fighters any time soon so against those BVR missiles will dominate them. I imagine IIR seeker close range missiles will make a comeback for close range engagements of stealth fighters however.

Now that we know Göksur is able to launch Gökdogan as well, I want to point out that ESSM can also be launched from Mk29 box launcher which is not VLS, and this configuration is used in Nimitz class carriers as well. It was also first developed to be quickly retrofitted to existing ships. Now...

Ukraine might need to rebuild the navy before that. But then we already are doing that for a couple countries

I really wanted to believe you mistyped 250

Doesn't that make this not a ram equivalent but essentially something that gets into ESSM hybrid territory?

I've been trying to say that those aren't Hisar D. But maybe block 2 version of it.

Sucks for us but the right call

By the way, anything new about TF2000 or anything new from Tusaş, Tei?

If you look at the new mockup of MILDAS you will see 3 different missiles. Siper, Hisar D Rf and quad packed missiles. You can also check the footage if first Hisar D RF launch from MILDAS. The quad pack ones are not the same design as Hisar D RF we have seen.

I don't think any of the missiles we see are quadpackable in their current versions anyways. I think they are planned for future blocks.

So does Gökdoğan, plus didn't we know siper had 2 way datalink before?

It’s not hisar RF on the sign it’s Regular Hisar O. And 100km is probably Siper Max range but 70+ still covers 100 could be effective range.

ESSM Blok 1 or 2 dont have the large foldable wings in middle so it has to be a version of Hisar D

Now that looks like something with potential

Those 40mm don't look belt fed, am I seeing wrong? What's up with that?

Hisar B? You mean O / D ?

TSK don't like medium tanks, this is for export mainly

Why not 80 :) The middleground, like Zumwalt but hopefully not a failure like that