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No, the other sentence

Also, I am not against what you said. I am against downplaying Ottomans

You should read you reply first

Ottomans took us to being a world superpower, and also a crippling state. I don't know why people hate "Ottoman" just watch İlber Ortaylı ffs. Tho yes thinking Ottomans did only good things is stupid as f*ck

yes integration and designing stuff for Su-35 would take some years, we will end up with a good platform in the end But you have already answered it why we don't do it, politics...

They will probably buy both

Can you link them?

Maybe not TB-4, but a new name? Or TB-3 is different?

Th second whitish one seems like has a radar and Turbofan inlet while the first one only has inlet

TB fucking 4?

Yes, I saw that source and was trying to find more, asked a Malaysian friend and he didn't know, so might not be that true. Let's wait I would say

Also, I cannot find any news confirming this, any links?

Lots of people were expecting either Tejas or Hürjet. So they want KF-21 or F-35 in the future

And yes, I was talking about this but the problem is we don't know which version of TF-X going to have TVC. With F110 they do have some possibilities but dunno if US allows it

Didn't Mr.Aksit both said TVC and Convergent Divergent. And can't be F110 modified, being the actual nozzle hidden there or made smaller?

I wonder if we can add 2D TVC to F110? Probably yes if we get approval to produce F110s here at TEI

Imo 3D TVC are both hard to do with stealth and bring up lots of complications. And it looks 🤢🤮

Ok, I have a good question. Recently I have seen some people like Ibrahim Sünnetçi confirming TVC for TF-X How could it be implemented for the future models, with no expertise 2D F-22 like nozzles seem easier to do than 3D round serrated edge (F-35 like with TVC) , it seems like Mr.Aksit was...

SOM doesn't have this big wings Edit: probably SOM, angle makes wings look bigger

We will see, people from the industry say numbers around 2026/2027