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  1. Ravager

    Malaysia Scrambles Jets To Intercept Chinese Military Planes

    Time to pop some popcorns .... 😘
  2. Ravager

    GOP senator: Arab leaders say they’ll enrich uranium at levels approved for Iran

    The question should be asked is why wouldn't they be allowed ?? It's within their right after all ...
  3. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    There is always a diference between expectation and achievement . Compound that with a pervalence systematical corruption happening around us . we are here today .. battered and bruised even with all our national riches and potential . I am simple man .... I only talk with what i had . never...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    This ..... 👍👍 We are literally standing on a sailing ship just barely out of port toward the sea of opportunity after docking for a year + with a broken sail . And yet some leakages and counting coulld allready have been seen . Either we fixed the leakeges ( discipline awareness ) now or we...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    At the end of the day financial capability were always the core of issues that plagued us . Between economic stability and shopping wish list . The choice always obvious . Exarcebated that with an old guard as representation of his own political party face that doesn't have a managerial...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    And folks .... That's why i'm holding my piece in the last few days ... Too much dramas and everybody are tearing each other literally and figuratifelly for a slice of the pie ... The irony is i find only pak dhe was trully the one genuienely care the defences matter ( provided we ain't get...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Not much apparently but it's the tought that counts . Let say between 6 to 8 ... And i was swamped in the la la land while write it .... 😂
  8. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Let me indulge you for the last time concerning off this topic . By your statement i could only summarise your stand as victor's might victor's absolved team . While nothing is wrong with the standing ( well , atleast honesty were bleeding trough it ) . It also promoting the same standing with...
  9. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    This is my least reply on this thread . Just looj for a 1967 map borders on and compared that to the present map disposition of Israel you'll get on what kind of clusterfuck situation was happening on the ground which lead to this hatred perpetuity .
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    That is why our gov only insist to take 1967 border as a starting poin for a meaningfull and honest peace initiative Discussion !! Everybody get some and none the wiser ... And yet some people just couldn't be satisfied with what they got .
  11. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    A word of warning ! Palestina - Isreal conflicts are far too heavy to be discussed in such casual topic discussion without sincerity . I said my piece and i don't want to spend my time without some constructive exchanges in between . So carry on ...i've said my piece allready .
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Are you testing me or what ?? Go read the Isreal - palestinian conflict in unedited version before try to make some comment about these conflict !! And while at it read all of those UN resolution started from 1966 and how many were observed and abided by the both side !! Gee.... I'm wasting...
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Because that is the essence of all this bullshits !! Power playing at it's finest ! 6 day war was iniated by the israelis and their reasoning was the exact copy on what the NK's pretext of SK invasion !! And look what were happening to the NK side ?? Backed by the UN resolution the western...
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    So in other word you are justifying all of these power playing of " might makes it right " and violent disposition of lands/property upon the civilians . ( That's nclude of crimeas and georgian , Khasmir and Tibet occupation !! But most of all our blatant invasion on ET !! ) OK ... I can...
  15. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Ever heard the word " land grabbing " before ?? There is nothing normal in the Israel-Palestinian relationship . They always stay in the warring state status ...even with these temporary cease fire !! Tnink of Nagorno-Karabakh , North-South korea on the stereoid !! Do you even understand that...
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    If you called that open air prison as a soverign state then we couldn't argue no more ... Sigh
  17. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    And to be honest .... Warkop means for a " warkop " it never a proper place to talk about political issue
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    In it's stance the political stance of RI was allready take a midle way as it is . Return to 67 border and working a recounciliation from there . But , the closest one ever to that was the Oslo's accord that never ratified from both side . Make no mistakes both Hamas/Fatah/PLO and Israel were a...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    Warkop is mean for a " warkop " it wasn't mean for serious discussion
  20. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    I wish i could responded to this but this is neither the time or place for a proper reply . Why don't you go to palestinian live section ....

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