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  1. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    I couldn't give you the real source . Some said it's come from the PINDAD's presentation during the last KKIP meeting . All i know this specific picture was allready circulated in the lembaga keris and local established miitary enthusiast forums and become local knowledge since decades ago ...
  2. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    The last time i've heard / see was TNI basically try put 2 transport sq , 1 attack sq and 1 heavy lift sq per big island . Do that number equation still stand or newer composition are in order ?? And I know .... Spesific number are dubios and let say ... Inapropriate to be mention in these...
  3. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Still you couldn't deny the advantages of their barrel length tho' even FAMAS get a second lease of life in the hand of croatian 😂 It's all down to the routines ... You just have to stick what you've used for to prevent a discrepancy about it . Familiarizing was ok but only to a certain extent .
  4. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Did anybody have an accurate number guesses on how much helis fleet we should have to cover all of 3 branches ?? WH and heavy lift included ?? I think i've seen once during the first MEF get coined and termed but i haven't see another new revision or even confirmation on how much we should...
  5. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    Oh i know that since ... Say , a 20 years back . That really put me a damp in my " Bambu runtjing " moment 😁 It's common practice for foreign agents using local frontman as a window shopping case rather than directly investing the proper manufacturing complexes and it was encouraged by their...
  6. Ravager

    Army Australian Army selects AH-64E Apache to replace Tiger helicopters

    New kid on the block eh .... ??
  7. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    To be honest i was rather let BBI who handing this advanced forgery and foundry smithing process rather than KS . Let KS doing the hulu of steel making and the rest of SOE taking care their spesific tailored metal afterprocessing phase . It faster , cheaper and put the egg in the different...
  8. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    Well , maybe you should ... In case even after i've posted that some member still hasn't waked it up yet ... Make no mistake tho' some harsh slap sometime is necessary for our mid journey reflection moment .. 👍
  9. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    I couldn't even give a reasonable answer for this . We could have achieve so much yet hampered byl our brethren also .....
  10. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    Truthfully if given enough money and fixed order this thing were still within the realm of our capability . Not in the economical prices for a while mind you but still within the tolerances of acceptance ... What could i say ... That's is the price of skills and know how self reliances . And...
  11. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    I hate to bust some bubles but this is just a snippet of what we are currently lacking ... Truthfully i hate to post it but it was encouraged by kenyot himself . So ,here we are ..... so much for what we called " karya bangsa " !! 😪
  12. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Law Enforcement

    Some people just never " get " it ... 😎
  13. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Some debris are found in kepulauan seribu wether it's related or not things are look grim indeed
  14. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Like it or not there is some kernel of truth in that statement . Basically any challenges for the current order has to be squashed immediatly or else second china will be all over the western ( current hegemon ) face all over again . By force if neccesary .... 👹
  15. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Law Enforcement

    Let them be .. it's only make them a bigger painted target for all the party involved ...nobody was an idiot after all . Wether it's a diversionary move or last ditch defiance we will see ... It's the price of open democracy with all the control element within .
  16. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    The way i read is they wholly change the turret with the CMI one too or i'm simply make a mistake here ?? Please correct me in this ...
  17. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    That is some ambigous meanings in that sentence which in turn entice me to do some life time philosophy review.... While i wish i could be more accomodating in some situation but in the end you could never lie to your own conscience afterall .. C'est la vie ☕☕
  18. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Why they don't go for 105 mm ?? Chasis floatation limitation ?? But , it's a progress none the less and hopely all the interested institutes and parties could draw some inspiration on how to bettering or increasing and upgrading current and next project in the pipe line
  19. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Well ... I'm not as optimistic as you were tho' . The gears are turning too fast for this one . I don't know what's wrong with all of these mainland anxiety but boy .... They trying too hard to prevail .

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