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  1. Cabatli_TR

    TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

    This cannot be a valid reason for mixing up politics and marginalizing even giant investments. I have always tried to explain this. States always welcome investments and governments only act as intermediaries and coordinator and people should always proud of the investments that will bring a new...
  2. Cabatli_TR

    TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

    I am of the same opinion as you about the build-operate-transfer model. I also made calculations about costs and realized that the state is really profitable in this regard. you don't have to take what i said on yourself. It is clear to whom my words go. 👍
  3. Cabatli_TR

    TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

    First of all, governments are not states. Whatever you suppose, governments can never become states. Governments come and go, but states always remain, so the Turkish republic must remain and develop under all circumstances. The key to development is production and investment. This is the first...
  4. Cabatli_TR

    TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

    they are a very minority group that cannot be happy with the developments in their country and oppose any development for the welfare of the state because they cant distinguish between the state and the government. These are the people that attack not only the domestic vehicle project but also...
  5. Cabatli_TR

    TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

    If you want to do trolling politically, you are not in the right subject. There is a politic topic. You can talk whatever you want including 2023 targets. For a simple remind, We Turks all are worried for our country when there is a negative situation regarding the course of the country and we...
  6. Cabatli_TR

    TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

    The logo issue is another matter. Whether you like this logo or not is a relative issue. Anyone can make any criticism they want. I also didn't like it but I'm talking about another dire situation and mentality. The answer I gave to the member I quoted is also about this.
  7. Cabatli_TR

    TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

    In fact What I deserve is not the subject of this topic. The important thing is that you should stop making generalizations and marginalizing everything with your political language and you should also give a logical answer to the question I asked. But again, you plunged into politics and...
  8. Cabatli_TR

    TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

    Who are they ? TOGG engineers or group? Are they establishing a factory with an annual production capacity of 175000 vehicles, where 4500 people will work for the "lie" you are talking about? Are they also building a 20GWh battery factory for nothing? You can criticize the logo or project...
  9. Cabatli_TR

    TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Referring to Greece, which is trying to strengthen its fleet with foreign purchases, Ismail Demir said: "I can say very clearly that there will be elements on the field that will have a surprise effect, neutralize the capabilities of the opposing side in the field and cope with these systems."
  10. Cabatli_TR

    TR Oil & Gas Exploration Update & Discussion

    Mr Demir: "When we want to procure a product or system from abroad, they make an annotation that 'it will not be used in the defense industry and gas/oil exploration activities'. We should never forget the importance of domestic and national studies."
  11. Cabatli_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Idealab turbojet motor for Kuzgun-TJ modern modular cruise missile TEI-TJ300 for Medium Range Anti-Ship Missile KTJ-3200 for all SOM variants, Atmaca and Kara-Atmaca shore based cruise missiles ARAT turbojet motor for Gezgin long range land attack cruise missile Trials of RAMJET...
  12. Cabatli_TR

    TR Industry, Science and Technology

    SIRO battery factory 15GWh battery cell 20GWh battery module
  13. Cabatli_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Yes indeed. All will be a part of whole and all will be ready for delivery in 2022.
  14. Cabatli_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    He made a statement about the possibility of experimenting Gezgin missile with a ready engine but I could not fully understand this part.
  15. Cabatli_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    He used the expression "4x extended range" for Siper Blok-0. The EIRS radar will be used as the main search radar for the Siper.
  16. Cabatli_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Mr Demir: "It (Anti-radiation and kamikaze drone) is coming"
  17. Cabatli_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Yes probably. He talked about the difficulties that may be experienced in the supply of subsystems at the production stage, if foreign components are procured.
  18. Cabatli_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Mr Demir: "Development studies for the engines of the Gezgin cruise missile were initiated. This missile will likely be subject to embargoes due to its long range and capability."
  19. Cabatli_TR

    TR Air Defence Programs

    Mr Demir: "The range of HİSAR-O+ has been increased 4 times by adding a booster. Other blocks will come after Siper Block 0"

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