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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    I thought they will not allow us to buy it
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    i thought NC212i is using TPE-331-12JR-701C (723 kW), not TPE331-10R-513C NC 212i Indonesian Aerospace NC 212i Wiki
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    what kind of research that they want to do in Batam? what kind of product they trying to build? A better version of Fast (relatively) Patrol / Attack Boat? OPV?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    You forgot ToT bro.... and an agreement to build some of those locally
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    What about this one??? KC-46 Pegasus
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Hopefully that is what happened.... cause if they downgrade it from 40 to 28 knot, it's just to ridiculous for a fast attack boat Btw, they did change the engine KRI Golok 1.800 hp diesel engine + MJP 500 QD CSU KRI Klewang 1.800 hp diesel engine + MJP55
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    please tell me that u are messing on me or making a joke or something... cause that is just tooo crazy... they launch an unfinished boat? is the plan is to finished it somewhere else??
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    that is why they call it a discussion, a forum.... u want to read "just the news"?? buy a damn news paper
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    so you are saying that even after it got passed from DNV-GL, it still easily got burned from a short circuit?? well, than the question is not just material then... but the material inspection or certification to...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    to me those Anoa, Badak, Maung, SS2, KFX ext is just the same thing in an identical process to get Not Just The Product, but also the sains or knowladge to do or create things. they just have a different level and method mau plastik mau carbon fiber mau kayu kalau dari awal sudah tau speknya...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    got the point, we are not at war. no need to buy things that too sophisticated to defend our nation. For now we should buy more PC40 and KCR 60 to increase our presence to fight those damn illegal fishing boats in South China Sea. what's the right one then?? the way i see it, normally its...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    KRI Tombak itu cannon baru atau apa itu? (New Canon or what it is?)
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    but would it be a problem knowing that Iver Huitfeldt is using Mk series?? if it does, it's kinda difficult to have 2 type of ships designed with Mk series and modify them to Sylver OR simply having 2 systems in the fleet
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    well, this means that this Egyptian war simulation could be just a part of another sales war and if it's true, then my statement or sarcasm is just fit enough for those Russian and French sales man
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    is this means you / Egypt expecting that SU35 is able to withstand a BVR combat with no support system against an enemy with ++ package (in this case is an integrated electronic warfare suite, Spectra) ??
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    "Su35 resistance against enemies jamming" if that is the case, why they make this simulation look like an air-to-air BVR combat?? why don't they put Khibiny to SU35??
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    nope, but we can choose what asset to fight the enemy if this simulation is based on their (Egypt) possible threat from other nations, Israels F35 or F15 or F16 is better. waaayy more realistic than Rafale F4/3 + Spectra
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    SU35 with no EW suite vs Rafale F4 + Spectra what a nice apple to apple configuration for a combat simulation
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Is that why you reply my post with all of those videos??? might wanna read part of my (unmentioned) comment again yes it is, but not because they didn't know about all those capability can't be performed by the F35 but because they know that TNI / Indonesia don't have a capability to buy those...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    what is it then? Interceptor? light fighter? what part of my word that said that i was dreaming about the F35?? about those network centric, ground support and bla bla bla that is why i call Rafale more costly, excample : New Missiles you guys keep mentioning about SU-35 and SU-57... you...

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