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https://www.janes.com/osint-insights/defence-news/sea/fincantieri-lays-out-proposal-to-convert-giuseppe-garibaldi-into-helicopter-carrier-for-indonesia

Didn't realize this was such an issue. Indonesia still has ties to North Korea, having embassies and probably one of the more neutral to decent relations with the hermit kingdom. Yet Indonesia purchases a decent amount from the South Korean defense industry. I'm curious if this is South Korean...

Ho... Gitu toh. Ingat sih US tau2 cutoff teknologinya ke korea. Bagus lah kalau dapat. Yeah It's the easy way for people who don't want to look further. Still I believe we shouldn't have delayed payments if it wasn't because of technological access issues. kalau yg dikasih berubah, bener...

Meh. Tidak dibilang secara eksplisit Indo dpt 120 teknologi kunci. Malah dibilang 48. Terus berita lama kemungkinan saja outdated. Lbh yakin tunggu detail amendment kalau saja keluar.

Indonesia masih jadi dapet 120 teknologi junci itu setelah amendment kontrak? Pasti ada yang dikurangi setelah pengurangan bayaran. Masa bayar lbh dikit dari stengah original masih dapet semuanya?

The AH140 was supposed to be a cheap solution. Slow non-gas turbine, and cheaper CAMM Mushroom farm. Saw an article where they questioned its affordability when the admiralty announced plans to possibly fit the Mk.41 VLS system. Surprised it threatened the affordability by that much.

Yeah. It's well within their right and interest to do so. Not covering the agreed amount and going against protocol just creates strain, giving them reasons/excuses to press Indo further. I think it's obvious that SK isn't thrilled Indo failed to pay it's share back then. It's natural and...

I don’t know about innocent. They did go against protocol by bypassing information acquisition procedures. Thats why we’re here in the first place. At least we can all rest knowing they didn’t steal any data. Needless to say, that would be disastrous for PTDI’s reputation and the country’s.

Expensive? I've always thought they marketed the Rafale as a cheaper solution other than 5th gen. An equally capable 4.5 positioning itself cheaper than the expensive Typhoon and free from other export restrictions. I honestly think the Indians screwed up up there, perhaps underestimating the...

There are several articles claiming the suspension of the procurement. I feel like these articles should not resort to sensational falsehoods. As of this time, no notice or change has been enacted regarding the procurement. No funds withdrawn, no notice of suspension, nothing. Reviews and...

Financial issues plague the country's expenditures in general. Personally, I don't see how they could afford all of it, especially with the government cutting spending in general. Talks about decreasing the amount of jets procured. Trying to pay with partially with commodities. They bought...

Oalah benar too good to be true. Itu baru lebih realistis. Kirain saya yang gila. Cuman bisa nangis dan doa. Harapan hampir tiada.

Iya sih. Kalau kemauan sudah tidak ragu. Masalahnya balik ke dana. KF21 dulu pernah kurang dana sebelum ToT dan bagian dikurangin. Ini mau nambah lagi atau gimana? Masalah ekonomi Indonesia, dunia pun, apalagi potensi potongan anggaran ya wajar skeptis dikit walaupun mau. Kalau punya duit...

Wowowow... 85% besar sekali. Saking besarnya rada ragu sih kyk too good to be true. emang komponen yang dalam negri apaan ya? Baja dan besi kali. Apa PTDI siap membangun mini assembly buat bikin parts? Bagus sekali kalau benar dan bisa.

Kyknya gak deh. Buat saya itu hal yang tidak diperlukan. Soalnya banyak unsur yang mungkin bermasalah. - I can't see the benefit of having a militant authoritarian state basing its planes out of Papua, a sensitive region to US-aligned Australia which would create unnecessary tension. What...

True... It could explain why there aren't any publications of exercises with pilots using them. They ought to have trained with them to use em.

This made me dig some stuff up and found this older DOD article. It's from sept 2023. https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/3543791/ Does it mean it's been in Indo secretly this whole time?

Yeah, It's certainly not the worst option when secondhand is on the table. I just don't agree because we've spent money on the 42 Rafales. Like you said, I don't see the urgency either, and it seems like the money is better spent elsewhere. The only thing beating the Rafales in the region is...

I remember reading an excerpt from an academic paper by TNI AU personnel describing the shortfalls of the Flankers. Also, a high-ranking officer says they've had enough. (As in "sudah cukup") in the context of being asked whether they'd like to procure more. I think the procurement work should...

A legendary quote is never let the truth interfere with a good story. Im sure everyone loves drama. Plus the earlier financial issues are just cherry on top. Sad to say it hasn't had a good effect.