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first reason, make sense. second one, just BS from some one who get but hurt :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

the project only had arround 50 % chance to continue, if 08 take the RI 1 positions. it will be terminated i believe.

halah artikel si alman, yg jualannya ketikung sama barang turki.

like i said, indonesia battle hardenned againts local separatist. what we should aware of that, no more situations like 97-98 ever happen again in indonesia. indonesia will not destroy part by part flick by flick, it will destroy like tempered glass smash to the ground. tiji tibeh.

berlebihan lah klo cuma kasus rempang jadi ujung ujungnya separatis dll, soal sejarah memang sempat ada kasus PRRI dan Aceh, di jawa juga sama ada DI TII, sulawesi dll. tapi iangan salah juga banyak bagian sumatera yg sejak dulu loyalitasnya tidak usah dipertanyakan ke NKRI. sudah resiko negara...

well, if you don't no, in indo, weaponary maintenance training considered as ToT :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

jatuh gimana, rata rata harga tahun 2004 ke bawah itu cuma 40 dollar per barel, sekarang, semenjak itu nyentuh 60 dollar per barel aja ga pernah

jatuh gimana, rata rata harga tahun 2004 ke bawah itu cuma 40 dollar per barel, sekarang, semenjak itu nyentuh 60 dollar per barel aja ga pernah

ujung ujungnya kasus irak itu lebih ke kebutuhan bisnis minyak gimana shale oil bisa masuk nilai keekonomian semenjak perang invasi irak.

ti dak bersalah klo ente ga mampu intercept :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

the benefit of collective leadership under communist party..

misi tempur pesawat stealth ya ga bisa dilepaskan dari penggunaan AWACS secara efektif, yg mutlak dari pesawat gen 5 ya element of surprisenya itu, dan inget lo ya.. pespur gen 5 juga punya IRST

blue navy projection doesn't mean you have to operate and stay for long time overseas, what happen to sinar kudus with its military operations, describe the typical blue navy projections we need. plus with indonesia as archipelagic country we need navy striking force with huge amounts of fire...

damen don't gave us right to produce n sell the ship to other countries..

compare to what mado says for fregat merah putih, with mor complex hull arround 278 million US...damen products for indo all of them FWBNW..plus no flexibility like korean LPDs

expensive, and the most important think, you want the succes story from korean LPD repeated for damen products, and you can't do it.

Damen? nope, to many drama for 104 dan 90

do Do you have Harimau when doing dyaminc firing test, i never saw harimau doing that kind of firing test..

it was dynamic firing test for booker, it seem normal.

indonesia belum perlu jadi blue navy.. lebih penting, jejelin semua ALKI dan pulau pulau strategis dengan landbase AShM, radar, SAM system, sekalian SOSUS, lebih butuh Guided rocket system juga dalam jumlah banyak, bisa jadi area access denial system yg murah, we must protect our choke point...