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    TR Army Artillery Systems & Projects

    There will be additional orders?
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Good. An old news about jdam record with f 22. Flying at 1.5 mach speed and 50 000 feet, the range is 45 km. https://newatlas.com/f-22-scores-direct-hit-in-supersonic-high-altitude-jdam-drop/5721/#:~:text=Flying%20at%20an%20altitude%20of,highest%20JDAM%20delivery%20to%20date. As far as I...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Air to air combat is really a tough issue. There are too many variables and factors. The specifications given by producer are superficial (they don't give NEZ, and NEZ also is variable depending on different factors). It is not easy to claim which modern missile is the best one or which air...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    I suppose, following the completion of the second order of 415 missiles, ther will be additional order for som, especially its new variants.
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Yes stormbreaker is like minbo IIR. I had a 200 k dollars figure in my memory about kuzgun tj like missile, and confused the munitions and currencies. But I found it. Assuming each SPEAR costs around £200k, that’s £1.6M for a salvo of eight...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Regarding Gökdoğan Mr. Demir had a statment. while giving information about the GÖKDOĞAN air-to-air missile in the program, Demir said that the range of GÖKDOĞAN is more than 100 km and that he cannot give more details on this subject. 100 km + should be its max. effective range but not max...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    They also wrote the number produced so far: 800 + And warhead 570 kg...this is not true if we take into account roketsan's web site which says 470 kg. https://www.roketsan.com.tr/tr/urunler/bora-fuzesi
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    There is a source for atmaca's cost: https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/2022/02/10/turkeys-own-atmaca-missile-to-replace-harpoons-on-its-navy-ships/ "An official from state-controlled missile-maker Roketsan, a co-producer of Atmaca (which translates to “Hawk” in English), said...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    We have 98 slam er (source: sipri) and some popeye 1s. For popeyes there are different numbers in open sources (100, 196, few hundreds etc). But their delivery was between 1997-2002, they should have had a modernisation (thermal battery and fuel). If this is the case their shell life will be...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Çakır and Kuzgun are said to be cost effective solutions. Stormbreaker, equivalent of kuzgun is 190 k dollars. If we can produce kuzgun TJ for 250k dollars. 200 kuzgun per year makes 50 million dollars. Let's add this 100 çakır (50 mil dollars) and 200 som/atmaca (200 mil. dollars) variants. Why...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Even more maybe. At least after 2024 the number should rise to 500-600, because besides som and atmaca, there will be need for different engines: kuzgun turbojet (idelab?), kara atmaca and som er (ktj 3700), çakır (ktj 1750) and who knows...gezgin (arat). Osman bey (vice chairman of kale group)...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    80 Som had been delievered as LRIP (Law Rate Initial Production). A few weeks ago, Minister of Trade Varank wrote there are 250 + indigeneous cruise missile in the inventory (we don'te know the real number but maybe around 350 or more). So far the production speed was not sufficient because the...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    What I am trying to explain about ammunition is that it has always been insufficient for armies and will continue to be. And the smart use of ammunition, its cost-effective use and sustainable mass production ability are some of the important factors to win a war. I think we should not...
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    TR Navy Naval Programs

    Compared to cruise missiles çakır atmaca and gezgin, they have a considerable weight disadvantage. Bora is 2.5 tonnes. Same for Tayfun (maybe a bit heavier) Another disadvantage is they can be detected much more easily. And they can reveal the exact place of the ship(s) that launch them. They...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    If everyone attack a single country simultaneously, which is not common, no inventory is sufficient to defend that country. Therefore we have diplomacy, there are alliances. Inventory can not guarantee victory. Besides many things (industrial and financial capacity, geo strategic position, the...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Those who think that, after war in ukraine the first lesson to be learnt is countries should produce much more munitions (especially precision guided ones) are not completely right. First, it's not a new phenomenon, all of the war history is full of munition shortage stories. You can easily see...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Since 3 years he's talking about certain ballistic missiles that were not disclosed to date. Now we heard tayfun, cenk and tufan. He is a general. Give some credit to him, at least as much as you give it to twitter phenomena or forum members who are maybe dentist, student, human resources...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Of course it may have more range. If it's an antiship, besides guidance, its warhead will be different, i.e lighter. Bora and tayfun has a warhead weighing 460 kg. Maybe cenk has a warhead weighing 200 kg. Then its range will be more than Tayfun. maybe 1 000 km Let's make speculation on Turkish...
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    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Guys, I don't want to disappoint you but Mr. Demir said: "Cenk is a version of Tayfun". I think it is not a MRBM, like Tayfun, it is another variant based on Bora architecture. A kind of Tayfun with different guidance (active radar plus IIR) specialised to kill ships. That's my guess Since...
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    TR Navy ULAQ ¦ SANCAR ¦ MIR ¦ SALVO | Unmanned Surface Vehicles, News and Updates

    Fagarostac is a greek spy I think :))

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