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  1. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Kalo mau cepat nambah Kapal perang gede ya pesan ke China orang ditawari up to 3 Type 52D kok kalo mau ambil 😆 masih ditambah beberapa Type 056 Corvette Let it set aside, those Maestrale class, Type 23 Duke class Frigate and some La Fayette class can be negotiated for hot transfer though...
  2. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Indonesia sih menurut saya pribadi harusnya untuk pakem Diplomasinya tetap berpedoman pada menjaga kepentingan Nasional. Untuk urusan Myanmar, yang harus kita lihat itu adalah apakah dengan isolasi Myanmar seperti yang diajukan negara negara barat akan memberikan dampak positif pada kepentingan...
  3. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Soon bro soon it would be our turn Two Fremm at least on the table Two Arrowhead 140 is in progress Two OPV 90 with ASW capability Two Sigma 105 class Four upgraded Diponegoro class Three Bung Tomo class Scorpene and U209 based Submarine
  4. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Myanmar actually is one of the oldest supporter of Indonesia, their contribution during Indonesian war of independen is not small and very crucial for gathering internasional support. Most of supply and logistic during the war come from Myanmar, not only that Myanmar government rented Indonesia...
  5. Madokafc

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    For a country with no need long range endurance patrol Chile has two very large replenishment vessels one is Henry J Kaiser class the other is Araucano. Meanwhile Brazilian Navy doesnt have a single large replenishment vessels albeit have more coastal area and also bigger tonnase of Surface...
  6. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Maybe, but my I do feel Indonesia has more 20 mm based AA gun (and more varians itself with various 20 mm type ammo) compared to the 23 mm gun. Are Ma Deuce is enough to handle low flying UAV/Loitering munition?? And then it is better to delay the retirement of this gun
  7. Madokafc

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Local shipyard already build several large commercial oiler ships though
  8. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Well i do think Air Superiority is very vital in any large conflict, thus no amount of Air defense system'you are employed there Will be not much to cover the whole teather of operation 24 hour o'clock and defend the whole units. While Air Superiority would deter the enemies movement to large...
  9. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    I don't think any of our branches willing to bought 23 mm ZSU from China after what happened during field training in Natuna back then which resulted in casualties of several operator. If any of such need arises, they would procure 23 mm gun either from Poland or Bulgaria. Heck even triple gun...
  10. Madokafc

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I think we would need such strategic oiler in near future heck even now they would came as handy assets
  11. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Whatelse thing can be repeat order from China, QW 3, TD 2000, CH4B, WZ 552 APC, MLRS
  12. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Those islet has sufficient air defense, either SAM or ground based fighter on rotation. Thus posed significant challenge against adversary to getting closer. 100 km to 200 km is hell distance nowadays
  13. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Baru ngeresmiin RS apung
  14. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Hati hati Bambang kalo mau komen yang aneh aneh soal yang ini
  15. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    My bet they would use reguler launcher
  16. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Atmaca , this has surface to surface including ground target attack capability
  17. Madokafc

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    ADVENT COMBAT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM (CMS) DEVELOPED BY HAVELSAN AND THE TURKISH NAVAL FORCES COMMAND, WILL BE USED IN THE INDONESIAN NAVY. Homepage Daily ADVENT Combat Management System (CMS) developed by HAVELSAN and the Turkish Naval Forces Command, will be used in the Indonesian Navy...
  18. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Yah, ada keuntungan dan kerugian make barang baru yang minim user. Keuntungan utama itu jarang yang ngerti pattern dari cara kerja sistem itu, kalo di Medan perang hal itu vital!!
  19. Madokafc

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Ga sesuai dengan konsep TNI AL sih, dan mereka memang lebih memilih sub Sonic sea skimming missiles tapi lebih punya kapasitas anti jamming dan secondary Cruise missiles land attack capability

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