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  1. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    Well, F-4 is able to carry double Popeye missiles, A popeye missile is around 1360 kg around twice the weight of the SOM. So, SOM is no problem for F-4. Btw, you don't need a radar for a ground attack. They would be escorted by F-16 in a case of bombing mission.
  2. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    Well, the topic was SOM and SCALP (as cruise missile). Which fighters able to carry scalp in your inventory? Mirage and Rafale. Which fighters able to carry SOM? F-16 and and F-4. That's it, you are looking into wrong details. Each hard point has different payload capacity based on their...
  3. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    I think you are the one pointing out and types of the aircraft, the post mentions there available aircrafts that can carry the respective missile and how many can carry each. These images are not renders, an F-16 is able to carry 7700 kg of weapon load. F-16 even able to carry 2 2000lb(900)kg...
  4. Tornadoss

    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    Yeah I saw now, it was due the video resolution at that time.
  5. Tornadoss

    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    I don't know I just felt like it passed just above. There is one sequence with hole before but can not see here after it passes.
  6. Tornadoss

    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    Is that a miss on 1:36-1:37?
  7. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    So? What is your point?
  8. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    Yes but how many Mirage and Rafale you have and how many F-16 and F-4 Turkey has, do the math. And you deliberately avoid UAVs that will deliver SOM. Edit
  9. Tornadoss

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    India bought S-400 and got away with CAATSA, while Turkey got sanctioned. Their explanation was mainly India not to be sanctioned was because they were not a NATO ally. Maybe Indonesia may also got away with CAATSA over Russian weapon procurement.
  10. Tornadoss

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    What boggles my mind if they remotely control the aircraft, why would deny US to get F-35, considering S-400 issue is an excuse. Wouldn't it much simpler for them if they would sell us F-35? So Turkey wouldn't try to get any alternative, US companies would gain billions of dollars, and in case...
  11. Tornadoss

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Good luck with hunting other fighters with TB-2 or using bombs more than 100 kg.
  12. Tornadoss

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    You can not replace F-35 with TB2. You are comparing apples and oranges.
  13. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    Eurocopter --> Airbus Helicopter. The fact is they have years of experience yet NH-90 is not that good.
  14. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    No, we are on the same topic. There is nothing so revolutionary or different other than the range of SOM and SCALP. However, what you possess is the export version, which doesn't benefit that advantage.
  15. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    https://www.flightglobal.com/helicopters/australia-plans-early-retirement-for-nh90-helicopters-as-it-lines-up-black-hawk-order/146797.article Check this for NH-90. Availability rates are worse than compared to Blackhawks. Of course, the French would say it's Turkey's fault, it's face saving...
  16. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    Well, compare Atmaca with Exocet doesn't matter. Maybe not the ones that France has, might be better than what you have.
  17. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    What makes Exocet better than Atmaca, and what makes SCALP better than SOM? Range? Sure but you don't have longer-ranged SCALPS. We are maybe 20 years behind in certain tech but we started and eventually, we will close the gap.
  18. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    Well, MBDA made good missiles such as HOT and Milan AT missiles but they sucked with Eryx, contract canceled by the Turkish army. Eurocopter made helicopters for years, but their NH-90 has lots of problems and countries try to get rid of them. HDW built submarines decades yet, they got problem...
  19. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    Well our F-16, F-4 as well as newly introduced Aksungur and Akinci UAVS have capability to deliver SOM, a surface based version with longer range is on development. Yet, they are not tested in real combat environment. Neither meteor or mica are not battle proven. However, somehow they are also...
  20. Tornadoss

    Greece Air-Force Greek Rafale Program

    OK, you got 100s of SCALP, If that is what you want to believe.

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