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These are two very different timelines. That's because there is no official deal yet and because officials didn't disclose the actual details of the proposed deal to actual journalists who actually ask questions. mTT's quote sounds like a more realistic time table to me, considering as there is...

Their prototyping phase continue and first prototype deliveries for testing should be by next year at the latest from my head. These are subcomponents, not really flashy things they will scream about. We will see them on Kaan, KE and Anka-3, they're coming.

Thanks! I think it corroborates my point. Interest, request, wishlist and actual orders are very different things. Will TurAF easily order 100 jets, probably yes. Did it yet, no. Another point, with Erdoğan himself announcing it first officially, this is probably more than a simple MoU. There...

It's a MoU, a statement of will and interest of creating something. Both are MoUs, which are again statements of interest, none of it are legally binding contracts. There's no payment for the aircraft, there's no official documentation. Current Turkish order for Kaan as far as I'm aware is 0...

SSST claims Turkey and Indonesia will sign a G2G agreement for Indonesia to join the program and order 48 Kaans.

T129 over at TurkSom. Not clear, but stub wings remind me of T129B2, and livery is clearly KKK. Probably transferred?

"General Kurilla says that APKWS is responsible for 40% of the UAS kills in CENTCOM's AOR"

Look at that, just 2 weeks before the elections in 2023.

It’s from this week, MSNBC interview of Selçuk.

“Also high on Barrack’s agenda is resolving the long-stalled sale of 40 F-16 fighter jets to Turkey, a deal that has been approved by Congress but remains unimplemented. Since the agreement was finalized in January 2024, Ankara has deliberately stalled its execution, citing concerns that the...

As a very low cost MPA, could work I guess. Very low endurance though. Drone better, no? Russians and Ukrainians use turboprops and even some piston aircraft in such a role, with guns. For such a total war scenario, sure it could work. But, we haven’t heard of further development of Cirit for...

That’s a big number for a country that only operated less than 15 Mig-29s for the last 30 years. 3 new squadrons? Costs make sense as they will need to buy everything associated with them and create squadrons from nothing. Multi year process.

Iran? With JF-17Cs, they have much better radars than any of ours now, and probably better BVR missiles save for C5s.

New Skyraider is a pretty special aircraft for special needs. SOCOM basically plans to use it in Africa to support their guys in countries like Somalia, Niger, Kenya etc where they operate out of nothingness in dirt strips. That's why they wanted it to be easily transportable with a C-17. We...

They removed the part about HvKK chief's visit completely. Someone didn't like all that chatter from the last 2 days.

Interestingly the official tweet is light on details. Full name of the initiative is Electromagnetic Warfare (EW) Coalition for Ukraine. Maybe Koral is finally heading to Ukraine, or we pay some money to the fund to buy other systems for Ukraine. Nonetheless it's a LoI without many details...

Forcing KKK to use gendarme handouts would be a taller order than forcing them to use light tanks so I'm mostly okay with this. Refreshing the most overused trucks is not a bad idea.

You're not wrong per se, but in the last 5 or so years, how many of these systems were incurred into service? I fear we are being too slow, again. Defence Turk's drone general guide was published when, in 2021? How many direct kill systems, how many wheeled systems, how many jammers do we have...

Those were gendarme unimogs, some pretty old.

So many lessons to be learned from this. There are plenty of projects companies are working on, plenty of different solutions to similar problems. But it requires a more general outlook and an army and state apparatus that is willing to use that manpower and pour money. Our naval bases...