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You’re comparing apples and oranges.🙂 Link-16, Link-22 and T-Link aren’t meant to push huge data rates. They exist to pass small but critical stuff like tracks, IDs, shoot cues) reliably and under jamming, not to stream raw sensor data. The “200+ MB/s F-35” number is internal sensor processing...

Retired Air Vice-Marshal Erdoğan Karakuş: ▪️We discussed this with Selçuk Bayraktar. There will be four types of KIZILELMA. ▪️KIZILELMA will be capable of performing the same functions as the F-35. ▪️TAI also has the TİSU (UCAV). It has an offensive unmanned combat aircraft. 👀 ▪️We are also...

Alright, We don’t have to agree; discussions would be boring if everyone thought the same anyway. Let’s keep the thread clean and focus on KAAN itself as you suggested. I’ll save my ideas about it for another day and another village. 🙃

Guys, if Europe didn’t brand their future jets as 6th gen, once the next real leap arrived the gap would’ve widened so much that catching up would be nearly impossible. And with the world sliding into deeper chaos, they’d be locked even tighter into U.S. dependency. So they played it smart...

That argument only works if ‘generations’ were some universal certified system but they aren’t. Countries label their programs based on development philosophy, not release order. Europe calls Tempest/FCAS ‘6th gen’ despite clearly evolutionary designs and unlike what’s being claimed, they don’t...

I actually agree with many of the technical points you raised, especially regarding tailless architectures and broadband 360° stealth. Aerodynamically and signature-wise, tailless designs do offer advantages, and adaptive-cycle engines will be a major milestone. No disagreement there. But...

I’m not “dying on a hill” over terminology. I’m pointing out a strategic communication mistake. When SSB or TUSAŞ use “5th gen,” they’re speaking in a legacy framework because that’s the only globally recognized scale from the past. That doesn’t mean it’s the smartest label going forward. Other...

I get your point but what I mean is this: “5th gen” isn’t wrong, it’s just limiting. Yes, the term isn’t strict, and yes, other 5th gens also command loyal wingmen. That part is true. But the issue isn’t the definition... it’s the perception game. Other countries freely call unfinished...

Great points and I think this also shows why calling KAAN “just a 5th gen” is actually counterproductive. We all seem to agree that the program is far beyond a simple checklist definition, just like YF-22 was in its early days. Labeling it strictly as “5th gen” undersells the ambition, the...

I repeat, my point isn’t about today’s status. It’s about how we frame the program as it develops. KAAN's generation should defined by its final architecture and its rivals' claims, not the temporary test engine. F-22 and F-35 prototypes also flew early with foreign or downgraded engines...

You’re right that we shouldn’t get carried away KAAN still has to fly in its final form and prove everything in practice. No disagreement there. But my point isn’t “KAAN is already 6th gen.” The issue is that calling it “5th generation” limits the program before it even matures, while FCAS/GCAP...

We Should Stop Calling KAAN a “5th Generation” Fighter We really need to drop the “5th generation” label when talking about KAAN, because it actually undersells the entire system. The term locks KAAN into an F-22/F-35 comparison cycle that doesn’t reflect what Türkiye is building today. KAAN...

I agree that would be beyond my skill set so I just wanted to share my ideas about the most significant parts of it according to me without any expertise. I'm just an enthusiastic patriot who doesn't want or like to lose any conflict when it's possible to win them decisively just by doing some...

Türkiye’s Next-Generation Hybrid Infantry: Vision & Implementation Modern small-unit combat boils down to three essentials: seeing, surviving, and hitting. By combining NATO’s Future Squad Architecture and Ukraine’s SKIRMISH 2.0, Türkiye can design small but lethal infantry squads today. Squad...

There’s definitely a lot of potential, but since we haven’t really seen major joint projects, it’s reasonable to keep expectations low. Still, in an ideal world, cooperation could absolutely happen in areas like satellites, space and aerospace projects, laser weapon systems, turbine engines, and...

We generally develop and introduce very similar systems. We have deep and strong relations, and I see no reason for that to change in the foreseeable future. One of my biggest hopes is that one day we can work on the same projects as partners, developing them faster and at a better cost. We...

Turkish drone giant Baykar is now working on small modular reactor (SMR) nuclear technology, aiming for a 40-megawatt prototype. 🤌

Great question. For me, a Loyal Wingman isn’t defined by a single platform but by the roles and capabilities it must reliably deliver. In my view, a system qualifies as a Loyal Wingman if it can perform the following: 1. Risk-tolerant mission execution It must be expendable enough to take the...

Şüper Şimşek as Loyal Wingman > Kızılelma > Anka 4 would work for me. TUSAŞ is very busy but I hope they can show us a capable Süper Şimşek and Anka 4 on spotlight at least in IDEF27'. That would end all my worries.

It doesn't look so cheap to me after all the planned systems on it. However I HOPE anka 4 can be a much more better and stealthier system than KIZILELMA too. My main point is: WE NEED A "LOYAL WINGMAN" like system between Süper Şimşek and Kızılelma. The rest is unimportant tbh. My honest...