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  1. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Actually you are not far out. One of our officials had mentioned that when we were first buying the JDAMs, even at over 90thousand dollars a piece they wouldn’t approve the quantities we wanted. So we manufactured HGK in it’s place for 27 thousand dollars. After our first test, US offered the...
  2. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Norwegian JSM Kongsberg missile (SOM-J equivalent) is 2.2 million dollars. Roketsan’s General Manager himself has disclosed the over 1 million dollar price of SOM missile. If you have a missile like HGK that can hit it’s target with the accuracy of 0.9metre, how many targets can you actually...
  3. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Do you know how much each one of these cost? US were selling them (as JDAM) to us for over 90thousand dollars each. We have manufactured them as HGK for around 27-28thousand dollars each. What you are suggesting makes 280 million dollars. That is more than a Milgem Corvette. For a bomb that has...
  4. Yasar_TR

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    Congratulations to all Indian members! Happy Independence Day.
  5. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    The first TB2’s during Euphrates Shield operations were very heavily electronically jammed and could not function properly. AnkaS UAVs with Satcom capabilities were sent in to take over from TB2s. It was only towards the end of the operation that the TB2s became resistant to EW jamming. Similar...
  6. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    That is the logical assumption. Because you have satcom capability you can not omit LOS communication. So you would have both. That means extra weight that eats in to your maximum payload capacity. TB2S, as it was named, may use a different engine. But we have not seen these new satcom versions...
  7. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Mam-L missiles weigh 22 kg each. But they have missile release mechanisms that add extra weight. One mustn’t forget the weight of Electro Optical laser targeting machinery either. (CATS etc) What EW system they use is a secret. But that too should add a good deal of weight. However Aselsan’s...
  8. Yasar_TR

    TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

    An interesting study on various currently in use Aesa radars and their respective targeting distances according to varying RCS values. For example the APG77 Aesa radar of F22-Raptor can target a plane with an RCS value of 0.0001m2 at a distance of 20km. Yet a Rafale RB-2 Aesa radar can only...
  9. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    TB2 with satcom upgrade -on the left- looks different. Whatever they have done to the plane it can now accommodate 4 x Mam-L missiles rather than 2 x Mam-L and 2 x Mam-C. (probably at the expense of fuel and altitude)
  10. Yasar_TR

    TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

    Good explanation! Very informative! But for a quick answer to the question of “how do you know the number of modules” question; I would say , counting them is a good way. They can be counted in a similar way to how the modules on the other 4 pictures have been counted. Infact someone had found...
  11. Yasar_TR

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Under the scope of air to ground attack mission, a TFX in stealth mode will have very limited number of weapons to carry within it’s internal weapons bays. But it can carry a good deal of weapons on it’s external weapons. However this would detract from it’s stealth characteristics. TFX...
  12. Yasar_TR

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    It all depends on what you understand from the terminology “bomber”. If F4 2000 were bombers in your view with a 8400kg useful payload capacity, f16 planes with a maximum payload capacity of 7500 kg are not falling too far short of that understanding. F35 in beast mode could handle 22000lb...
  13. Yasar_TR

    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    Only true in name though! Hurjet F404-102 has a maximum thrust of 17700lbf Tejas F404-IN20 has a maximum thrust of 19000lbf Gripen-C F404-RM12 (Volvo) has a maximum thrust of 18100lbf Only the KAI-T50 uses the same power output F404-102 engine as Hurjet. Albeit produced by Samsung under licence...
  14. Yasar_TR

    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    Gripen specifications show how much a good airframe makes all the difference. OK the engine used has 400lbf more thrust than the one on Hurjet. But also the Swedish plane has delta wings to give it better lift and canards to make it more agile. Nevertheless to have 50% more range and nearly...
  15. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    https://www.savunmatr.com/savunma-sanayii/goktug-hava-hava-fuzeleri-aksungurda-kullanilacak-h18277.html Aksungur will be furnished with Goktug Class air to air missiles too. As these UAVs are very long endurance class platforms, they would be ideal against other UAVs and rotor bladed air...
  16. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    This was discussed before. Both Gurcan Okumus of Tubitak Sage and Ismail Demir stated that Gökhan is going to be with liquid fuelled ramjet engines. But there is a small trick here; The liquid fuel used will probably be like the liquid fuel used in Brahmos missiles. That is gel based liquid...
  17. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Very ambitious and correct way to go forward with. Gokhan and Akbaba will materialise in the months to come hopefully. Gokhan with a liquid fuel ramjet engine and Akbaba with solid fuel ramjet engine. All the others you have listed here will have to be with liquid fuel ramjet engines. My only...
  18. Yasar_TR

    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    Logical thing to do is to produce a smaller engine before you go bigger. As the proverb go: ” walk before you run”! 6000lbf thrust class engine to be produced first. This is going to be our first shot at a turbofan. Then it should be a 12000lbf class engine that can power Hurjet. Then...
  19. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    This was tested earlier this year. I remember reading about it. Up to 150 km range. But it is a very expensive method to increase range. There is already guided rounds like Excalibur in esoteric price levels. Who knows what these will cost. Also the amount of explosive it can carry will be...
  20. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    If it is Roketsan’s ramjet, then it is solid fuelled ramjet engine being used in these missiles for propulsion. This should be similar to the engine being used in Meteor; May be without throttle control. However if it should have throttle control it would give very long ranges to the missile...

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