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From facebook rumour transferred from PLAN inventory

PLA.

Hot transfer @Madokafc ? Tl: van speijk and parchim replaced by type 52, 54, 56 using PPA budget allocation.

Ahahahai, pantesan cocok duet sama bossman 🤣

Either PPA is coming, or they want to remind us regarding 6 FREMM.

Do we have option aside from the western when PLAN/ PLAAF strike on Natuna? India, Russia?

Then we buy from Turkiye.

Thank you for the correction, security partner and guarantor.

If we dont learn from the past, we might be the same fate as Dutch Indies invaded by IJA. For statesman, there is only eternal interest (more or less same as ravager mentioned) if our interest align, i dont see why do we miss the chance tho. Do you want to detach like the Duterte did, kicked...

Did they include reiss class in our tender back then?

Should've followed France with its independent policy. Dont forget PRC also got their submarine tech from the USA back then.

Yep 1 billion, for 3 submarines plus ToT. The cheapest on the tender with that amount of subs, if iam not wrong.

France also sent their LHD as hospitalship. Still hating Rafale?

LoL, hating US yet our biggest ally on the pacific just because their dumb policy on MEA.

Welp its up to you, since your argument fueled with dissappointment toward western policy maker. I dont want these discussions dragged onto Palestine-Israel. Its just go bleak for them. I mean: Exocet on USS Stark, HMS Shieffield, Iranian F14,

history dictates there is no kill switch for western made. they do it via embargos, veto on export license so it couldnt fall to their adversaries and they limit the weapon range. also our main adversary is China, then why do we bother invites Australia to our exercise * super garuda. I put the...

there is a reason why they stationed CH4 on Natuna. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3220830/built-watchdogs-protect-china-its-own-drones-military-source

to my fellow Indonesians, was it the same person halt the IFX payment? Signed by AFK MoD?

Plus the Chinook blade cant be folded. The QE lift 27 x 15m vs Navantia LHD 13 x 13m, yep its smaller.