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    Breaking News Iran strikes Pakistani territory; Pakistan Counter Strikes; Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar

    A lot of Iranians I've spoken to online before Pakistan retaliated were completely delusional, and boy, how they ran away and still haven't returned after Pakistan struck is just funny. The facade has been torn to shreds, and while it is sad that this plays into US interests, I don't see it...
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    I read up on Brig. Devinder Singh last night and the story seemed tragic until he was rightfully recognized, please do share the article when you can as I'm eager to learn more. :)
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    Great (y) I'm not at all interested in discussing anything with you, Please don't make this thread obnoxious, I'm only interested in the truth, not your veiled slander that occupies your responses. You have a problem with Pakistan, take up arms and sort it out yourself. I know you can't help...
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    Sure thing, looking forward to it!
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    Haha, I will do so tomorrow. It's almost 1AM in Pakistan so if you'll excuse me.. I'll be heading to bed soon.
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    @Joe Shearer, I shared my response on Kargil here..
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    The nitty gritties that were emphasized, the small victories that didn't matter in the end as the overall objective was never met.
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    My alias was Smoke on PDF as well.
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    Was busy in the war, wouldn't you say? :)
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    The army was not forced, but rather the political leadership gave in under pressure from Clinton. FYI, Musharraf had moved nukes without notice to the Government. They managed to down two Migs with Anza II, one pilot died while the other was a POW, the IAF became super cautious because of that...
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    The genesis of the Kargil conflict dates back to India's strategic move in 1984 to control the Siachen Glacier, preventing a similar Pakistani takeover in Kargil by deploying a dedicated division. Pakistan's plan involved covertly creating gaps in Kargil's defense, training local forces, and...
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    True. It sure does boil down to the end objectives, the rest does not matter as much if the objective hasn't been met. That is always where information is either misleading, vague or just not available.
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    Well ofcourse, 1971 is a no brainer since Pakistan lost East Pakistan. Kargil is more of a blurry line though, same as 1966.
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    India Historical Indian War History Thread

    During times of conflict or war, India, like many other nations, often uses various forms of storytelling, including fiction, to shape narratives and influence public perception. It's a common strategy used by governments to foster unity, boost morale, and convey specific messages aligned with...
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    Pakistan Ex-army officers Adil Raja, Haider Mehdi handed jail sentences following court martial for ‘inciting sedition’: ISPR

    The recent judgment said certain actions under the Army rules won't count for some people. This could cover everyone who's seen as a regular citizen, no matter if they were in the military before. But some people might argue that retired military folks might not get this protection. They might...
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    India 15th Anniversary of Bombay Terror Attacks 26/11

    Understood, I did read the TOS previously, but the posters here basically invited it themselves until I showed them the mirror. Thank you for intercepting though, this thread was de-railed and would have become disgusting.
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    India 15th Anniversary of Bombay Terror Attacks 26/11

    Lets leave that for another day, why don't you stay on topic and answer what I have written. Whatever has happened this year in Pakistan, no matter how awful, still pales in comparison to India, every, single, day.
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    India 15th Anniversary of Bombay Terror Attacks 26/11

    You sure you want to compare the 3 pebbles you found versus the mountain of stones that originate from India?
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    India 15th Anniversary of Bombay Terror Attacks 26/11

    I don't see any screaming from here, just from your end, the usual, Pak ki Napak saazish... Weren't you guys impressed with ISPR that you wanted to launch your own media wing? What happened there? Your former Indian Military Lt. Gen Syed Ata Husnain claimed how ISPR outclassed the Indian Army...

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