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I hope he is okay. We would like to see him back.

Why TR_123456 abi deleted his account? Account is labeled as guest now. Anybody knows anything?

If KAI engineers don’t work a miracle, either Block 3 will be chubby like F-35 or they will change the specs later. We will see.

Isn’t that a new aircraft from scratch? And how big is it going to be? Kaan will carry 1000lbs class internally. 2000 requires an iwb as big as F-35A’s.

Here is one reason why I put KE in low-observable zone:

Guys, 0.1 for KE and 1 for EF/Rafale was unserious numbers. And we probably will never know the exact numbers. What I meant was KE is not as stealth as F-35 or such and the main reason for this is money. It’s not about the rcs values but the comparisons. KE’s RCS values are probably in...

I said these not @Huelague so I will answer. If we consider KE's RCS value (which we don't know) as 0.1m², 4.5th gens RCS values as 1m² and 5th gen RCS values as <0.01; this makes KE's RCS values similar to 4.5th gens more than it is similar to 5th gens. With "similar", I don't mean "same" but...

Better composites = less rcs Better composites = more money Better ram coating = less rcs Better ram coating = more money Better rcs optimized body shape&curves = more production cost F-35 ~100 million dollars KE <50 million dollars Same goes for B-2 and F-35. Is B-2 smaller? If you asked why...

You talk like we are vulnerable against 250 jets and there's also 50 impossible targets. First, we can match all of their 4th gen jets. We may not have enough Özgür F16's but we have E-7T's. We can easily match over Aegean. The only problem is the F-35's. We do not have any fighter jets to...

There is no export version for F-35. Only difference is the radar and the restrictions for APG-85 is not only for us. It is effective for any air force other than USAF/USN. All we can expect for it to be exported to UK or Israel. Current talks are for the 6 F-35's that were already finished...

Passed away right after saying F-35's for Turkiye is possible. It's hard to not get suspicious. "Brief and sudden illness"

Will those screws stay visible in serial production? I expected them to hide these after S1.

https://www.turkiyetoday.com/nation/exclusive-us-sen-graham-backs-possible-f-35-delivery-to-turkiye-3223410?s=1 Lindsey's comments for those who missed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/06/us/politics/trump-turkey-f35.html

Exactly. It's only the ambassador to the US but going from "we control America" to "they do what they need to do" type of talks is a huge difference.

Yechiel Leiter, Israeli Ambassador to the US:

This thread is dedicated to news from the 2026 NATO Summit in Ankara.

Rutte said tens of billions worth of new contracts will be announced tomorrow. Do you think we need a thread for the summit? It's kind of a defence fair.

Thanks for the information. Espacially about the original and current plans.

@TheInsider Is it possible for us to see Kaan P1 flying before the NATO summit ends? If you know anything that we shouldn't know, please keep it to yourself. All I want to know is if it's off the table or not.