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This is an old post , but in a recent Google search I obtained the following (from the Google AI): I find that encouraging, although given this was an AI answer, I don't know whether to believe. Aside from the RCN, I am only aware of the Australian Navy (RAN), New Zealand Navy (RNZN), the...

i 100% support such an approach. I fear to a certain extent such a vessel may push the budget in which the RCN can convince their 'political masters' is necessary, but I do believe such is necessary if the Canadian government , who represent the Canadian people, if they wish the RCN to be...

I agree. I believe this to be a win-win for the RCN that appears to be playing out. Both submarines have their advantages ... and it is good to seeing the project move forward. I think the RCN has a big challenge ahead of it where they need to first keep the existing submarines going, as...

My view is Australia is willing to spend extra$$ to obtain nuclear propulsion in submarines. Canada is not. There may be some truth to that, 4 decades ago. Perhaps less today. Back in the late 1980s there was a 1987 White Paper of the Canadian Department of National Defence outlining a plan...

I think it a bit harsh to state Canada can't run submarine forces. Canada has some superb submariners IMHO and who of an excellent quality and professionalism - especially considering the equipment that they have to use. While for warships a 3 ships needed to keep 1 operational is standard...

I think if cost were not a factor, everyone would agree with you. But after adding up acquisition and lifetiime maintenance costs, 4 to 5 nuclear propulsion submarines will cost a lot more than 12 conventional (AIP/Lithium battery) boats. I suspect Canada would struggle to get even 1 out of 4...

I think 'pessimism' may be the operative word there. I agree that there is a risk here. I think the South Korean Hanwha Ocean with its KSS-III-batch II has a lower risk of a cost over run, given (1)Hanwha Ocean already has a boat in the water under going trials, and (2) given KSS-III change...

I don't know the details so I can't explain such. The Canadian PM stated the two were very close proposals. I assume (speculate) that means assessed pretty much overall mostly equal - so as to what were the deciding factors ? I can't say. While I was hoping to see the South Korean KSS-III...

For the record, Canadian PM Carney speech: https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2026/07/06/prime-minister-carney-announces-preferred-supplier-canadian-patrol I am a bit skeptical about Carney's statement " first four submarines to be delivered ahead of schedule, in 2034 " ... I wonder...

I wonder if the pre-announcement "leaks" were deliberate by the government or if they were just from individuals "in the know" eager to pass on what they knew before the official announcements?

CTV are now claiming the same: Canada chooses German company to build new submarine fleet: sources The CTV video says the claim is from the Globe and Mail, but the CTV article text claims that it has confirmed the TKMS selection by two senior industry sources "with knowledge of the process".

Steven Chase of the Globe and Mail, referencing unamed sources, claims the German TKMS Type-212CD has been selected by Canada. Globe and Mail: Ottawa picks Germany’s TKMS to build Canada’s new submarines, sources say

Replying to my own thread ... I had it pointed out to me that the South Korean President plans to attend the NATO meeting: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/south-koreas-president-attend-nato-summit-ankara-visit-mongolia-2026-07-03/ I confess I forgot that it is not uncommon for a...

Two announcements coming up immediately prior to the 7/8-July NATO meeting in Turkey with a 6-July announcement, where the press (such as CBC and CTV) are claiming there will be an announcement as to which submarine (Type-212CD or KSS-III-batch-2) is to be chosen by Canada for the RCN. East...

BBC has an interesting article (dated 29-June-2026): Navy to build drone-equipped warships instead of replacing ageing destroyers some extracts: I am most curious (1) to see the design, and (2) to see if other navies quickly follow suit? EDIT - related (sort of) is a wiki such as this...

Its an interesting graphic. I note some omissions which give me pause - and I ask myself, are the omissions too insignificant (or perhaps too detailed) for RCN to consider listing? - no mention if 2x stabilized rapid fire 30mm naval gun systems is the Mk38 Mod 4 30mm guns with Mk-48 Mod 2 EOSS...

This "41" day figure actually includes snorkeling. More accurate information: When evaluating the open-source data for Canada’s Canadian Patrol Submarine Project (CPSP), it is critical to look past manufacturer marketing templates and isolate known design parameters from classified...

For my own edification, I dug into this further, as the Canada-class wiki, erroneously I believe, states "under a 1959 agreement between the US and Canada the US had the right to block the purchase of submarine nuclear reactors by Canada from any third party (i.e. the United Kingdom or France)"...

I read in the Canada class wiki (that USA had a veto over French nuclear submarine reactor procurement by Canada) but when I try to follow it up, I find no agreement where USA can veto a Canadian nuclear propulsion submarine procurement from France. I note the 1959 Agreement Between the...

While nuclear-powered submarines are unquestionably superior in endurance, speed, and sustained presence, I am not convinced they are necessarily the best fit for Canada - especially given the current US administration. The reality is that nuclear submarines are enormously expensive to acquire...