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  1. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Further to the above, on the topic of Electronic Counter Measures, I am also pondering with the deletion of Raven ECM, what if anything (besides the very expensive expendable Nulka) is Canada planning for active ELECTRONIC defense for the Type-26 River Class? As noted elsewhere in this thread...
  2. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    I am a big believer in the need of effective Electronic Warfare to improve a warship's chance of survival at sea. I was comparing the Australian Type-26 (Hunter class) to the Canadian Type-26 (River class) and noted for: (1) Australia : 3 x MASS Omnitrop, 4 x quad Nulka active RF decoy...
  3. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    When searching for information on Aegis AN/SPY-7 implementations, I stumbled across an old article on the planned Japanese AN/SPY-7 procurement, where with my updated knowledge I am reconsidering it in a 'new light'. It provides some of the history of the tribulations of the Japanese AN/SPY-7...
  4. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    On this C2BMC (Command and Control, Battle Management, and Communications) topic, it had me thinking about Communications for the River Class Destroyer. I note C2BMC requires SATCOM for the Aegis equipped warship to participate in C2BMC. I read back in May last year that L3Harris are to...
  5. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    I puzzled a bit over whether the River Class destroyers might come with C2BMC functionality, and I basically came to the conclusion that any decision could be the result of politics, initial costs, and lifetime maintenance costs. But I came to no conclusions as to whether C2BMC (Command and...
  6. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    I have been puzzling over some Aegis aspects and functionalities in regards to the River Class Destroyer, and so to lay the ground work for my future understanding, I researched a bit the evolution of Aegis. This is my summary and it pulls information from various unclassified sources and it...
  7. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    I thought i would speculate a bit on the River Class Destroyer, Aegis, and CEC/C2BMC , especially in light of some occasional press mention of NORAD and the USA talk of a Golden Dome. While reading up on Aegis, and learning a bit about Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) which I understand...
  8. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Recent news are reporting (again) on MDAs contract for a Laser warning system. According to Spaceq.ca and Naval Technology notes: and autoevolution notes: This puzzles me. This is old news !! It reads to be consistent with what was announced previous (without the $60 million dollar...
  9. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Further to this, I am still puzzling over the fact sheet for the River Class Destroyer where it refers to a "Sonobuoy Processing System - General Dynamics Mission Systems (GDMS)" While I believe there are fixed wing and helicopter variants of the UYS-505 and UYS-506, I keep asking myself, are...
  10. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    I read that the Canadian River Class destroyer may procure the NA-30S fire control radar, to use with the Leonardo 127/64 vulcano gun. I also read that on some classes of warships, the NA-30S firecontrol can be used to control the Leonardo 76mm gun. So out of curiousity I did a search on this...
  11. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    i am thinking this may be a "moot" point. I am very much "out of date" here. Surfing I learned that the Halifax-Class Modernization (HCM) program may have included a Shipboard Electro-Optical Surveillance System (SEOSS) from L3 Harris. Key features: - High-resolution EO/IR cameras (day/night...
  12. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Having typed the above, other than the Mk20 EOSS, I do not believe any other L3 Harris EOSS has been certified to interface to Aegis. i do not believe the ruggedized L3 Harris MX-10 MS nor MX-15 MS are certified for interfacing to Aegis nor are they fully certified to milspec. Hence there would...
  13. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    I spotted this 13 year old video, on the "generic" 127/64 LW gun (and not specific to the Vulcano) variant. Still, given I had not seen this video before, I thought it of interest. In particular, reading of the 127/64 LW has improvements over older 127/54 compact was of interest to me, where...
  14. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    I also thought to see if I could produce a list of warships either with, or planned to be fitted with the 127mm Vulcano gun. There is a lot of speculative and conflicting information on this, so it is difficult to be accurate. My list currently includes: - the Canadian River Class destroyer -...
  15. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    As noted in the quote, internet documents suggests the Canadian River Class is to have the Sea Sentor torpedo defense system. I was curious as to which other warships in the world may have (or planned to procure) the Sea Sentor 'torpedo defense' system (I believe known as S2170 in the UK) and...
  16. oldcpu

    Canada SPY 7 vs RMAs for the CSC River Class Destroyer

    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/expert/articles/81e965776959d5312208e6b7f8edc824b94ac25e ... this is a link to a Japanese language yahoo article on the AN/SPY-7 japan is procuring, and after conducting a Google translation, it is one of the articles that have lead me to question ( by deduction and...
  17. oldcpu

    Canada SPY 7 vs RMAs for the CSC River Class Destroyer

    I attempted to learn more about the AN/SPY-7 and its modules, and have not been very successful thus far, as the unclassified sources (and I looked at more than a few) tend to contradict each other in terms of dimensions and weight (and to a lessor extent functionality). One area where I did...
  18. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Further to the above, in regards to the 30mm Lionfish, which is a new gunnery system, my understanding from surfing is that it is currently planned to be fitted on: - 2 x Italian PPX OPV (offshore patrol vessel)(one lionfish per warship) - possibly as soon as a ~year 2028 commissioning of the...
  19. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    On the topic of the 30mm Lionfish guns planned for the River Class Destroyer, I noted in this wiki reference (to FREMM frigates) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FREMM_multipurpose_frigate and also in some other references, where Italy, in the latest permutation of their building of FREMM...
  20. oldcpu

    Canada SPY 7 vs RMAs for the CSC River Class Destroyer

    Not specific to RMA, but I note: https://armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/how-spy-7-radar-provides-simultaneous-target-tracking-and-continuous-surveillance-for-naval-and-land-based-systems This is just one of a few news sources which are noting the AN/TPY-6 radar, deployed in Guam, is...

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