TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

[Lool]

What this has to do with the Altay tank ?

Posted in the wrong thread and didnt notice, sorry

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914582166618439684

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[begturan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914582166618439684

last 130 days

The Altay tank's delay wasn't bad at all, the tank was updated against current threats, especially after the Syrian and Ukrainian wars. It is at a good level, especially in terms of detection and prevention systems against drones.

In the future, we will probably see unmanned turrets and fully unmanned versions. Thus, we will continue to use manned systems along with unmanned systems that will be gradually prepared for the future combat environment.

 

[Lool]

The Altay tank's delay wasn't bad at all, the tank was updated against current threats, especially after the Syrian and Ukrainian wars. It is at a good level, especially in terms of detection and prevention systems against drones.

In the future, we will probably see unmanned turrets and fully unmanned versions. Thus, we will continue to use manned systems along with unmanned systems that will be gradually prepared for the future combat environment.

No, the Altay tank delay was bad

This is the result of trusting idiots that dont even have an ounce of knowledge like Ethem Sancak and Erdogan is suffering the consequences of trusting empty promises without logical backing/planning

The current Altay tank is way too late and probably near outdated as well considering that automated turrets are on the horizon and the introduction and global implementation of mass suicide drones or even drones like TB2s

The new Altay tank should be more automated, faster, stronger, and above all..... lighter to become useful in the war field again

The only good thing Turkey gained from the Altay program fiasco is that Turkey has managed to design, nationalise, and produce its own domestic tank engine which will save Turkey's ass in the next 10-15 years or so. I would have also included the fact that Turkey learned the lesson that Germany should never be trusted with anything critical whether in civilian or military field as they as massive hypocrites and liara; however, with the recent Akkuyu fiasco, it seems that Erdogan still needs more time to learn such fact

 

[Saithan]

Let's wait and see, I expect announcements of delivery for every tank, I have 0 trust in this government anymore. They may cut it short after 20 pieces are produced.

 

[Sanchez]

the tank was updated against current threats

Was it? How?

 

[Pokemonte13]

Was it? How?

Roof armour upgrade sarp counter uav capability aps and maybe jammers

 

[boredaf]

Roof armour upgrade sarp counter uav capability aps and maybe jammers

Has there been any mention of a "roof armour upgrade"? Or jammer or Sarp anti drone capability?

 

[Sanchez]

Has there been any mention of a "roof armour upgrade"? Or jammer or Sarp anti drone capability?

Nope. And Sarp anti drone capability is nothing more than a plan for now. Also no jammers and no anti drone capability for Akkor so far.

 

[boredaf]

Nope. And Sarp anti drone capability is nothing more than a plan for now. Also no jammers and no anti drone capability for Akkor so far.

Akkor anti drone would be a waste because I've seen both Ukraine and Russia send multiple drones to kill tanks and it has, what, 4 or 6 charges?

 

[Sanchez]

Akkor anti drone would be a waste because I've seen both Ukraine and Russia send multiple drones to kill tanks and it has, what, 4 or 6 charges?

Still better than losing a tank to a drone though. RCWS are very light skinned, they won't survive long in an open war, so we can't expect them to take over the anti drone duties.

 

[boredaf]

Still better than losing a tank to a drone though. RCWS are very light skinned, they won't survive long in an open war, so we can't expect them to take over the anti drone duties.

But you'll lose it, that is my point. From the photos it looks like it has 4 charges, all an enemy would have to do is to send 6 drones and I have seen tanks getting hit with multiple drones. With RCWS, or rather a proper CIWS like system that is automated like that, you can at least hunt them at a greater range rather than waiting until they are on top of you.

 

[Radko]

Nope. And Sarp anti drone capability is nothing more than a plan for now. Also no jammers and no anti drone capability for Akkor so far.

ASELSAN has a video in their YouTube channel, featuring Sarp w/Anti Drone. I am too busy to find it rn

 

[Tornadoss]

Add Aselsan Sahin with autonomous capability behind Altay, like crocodile and you are good to go

 

[Saithan]

Add Aselsan Sahin with autonomous capability behind Altay, like crocodile and you are good to go

This is a good solution and I thought about it as well. It looks like a 40-60mm pellet round for an effective range of 0-200m maybe less, not sure.

 

[mTT]

This is a good solution and I thought about it as well. It looks like a 40-60mm pellet round for an effective range of 0-200m maybe less, not sure.

Ammunition ATOM 40 mm ABM (Air Burst Munition)

They use the same ammunition.

 

[Saithan]

Yes, I can see that and the range is pretty decent. Only thing to worry about is it has ammunition enough to deal with a swarm of drones.

 

[Anastasius]

Flak guns making a comeback as a counter for drones. Funny how life works sometimes.

 

[mTT]

Flak guns making a comeback as a counter for drones. Funny how life works sometimes.

 

[boredaf]

Şahin weighs 2 or 3 tons, it is not a feasible solution as a whole. Maybe as a system that is mounted on the tank with 2 or whatever belt fed launchers.

Or, a higher calibre gun 20/30/whatever with ATOM airburst smart munition. This is, imo, the best solution as the speed of the bullets far higher than the grenades, naturally, giving the drone less time to fly away; and whole system would weigh far less and would potentially be easier to adapt.