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Draught warning in Konya :(
 

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Turkey to build 150 underground dams to fight drought​

ANKARA​

Turkey to build 150 underground dams to fight drought

Turkey is planning to build up to 150 underground dams as part of the government’s Drought Action Plan, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Bekir Pakdemirli has said.

The ministry has devised an action plan to overcome the impact of global warming.

“Water is like a precious material, and Turkey may risk becoming one of the countries experiencing drought in the years to come,” Pakdemirli said.

The government is working on an action plan to be launched in 2021, and the focus will be on building underground dams, the minister told reporters, noting that building underground dams were relatively easier.

“We do not have to deal with expropriation issues when building such facilities, and those dams do not trigger social problems with people living on the construction site. Besides, underground dams prevent vaporization,” Pakdemirli added.

Those dams collect waters running underground at certain location, he furthered.

“We are targeting to build as much as 150 underground dams until 2023,” the minister said.

The action plan will also raise awareness among the public about the importance of saving water, which will constitute the second pillar of the initiative, according to Pakdemirli.

“Every single citizen needs to save water. We should consider water a precious material, just like gold or a piece of jewelry. Today we do not have a serious problem, but the chances of encountering water shortage problems in 20 years from now are increasing,” he said.

Pakdemirli also underlined that Turkey might need to embark on water-saving irrigation methods in the face of the impending threats.

Underwater trickle irrigation systems save up to 30 percent to 40 percent water and help open up drylands to agricultural activities, he said.

The local administrations also need to take action to prevent seepage losses, which in certain districts can reach up to 80 percent, Pakdemirli said, noting that the seepage loss rate is around 37 percent on average across the country.



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It's going to be very expensive to build underground "dams", I think they mean cisterns right ?

We do have an insane underground cave network many places in Turkey. But the water is probably being led elsewhere after a certain level. Which is why these caves aren't filled up with water to the top.

The cistern is a solution, but I'd prefer if we raised awareness to how much water ppl use in different things at home and to not be wasteful about it.

If you as a homeowner have a desire to be able to save money on water, then there is no doubt at all that a water saver can certainly be a good solution. A good method for this is of course to use only the amount of water you need - but how is it best done? A good solution for this can undoubtedly be to use a smart and practical water saver .
A water saver works by simply putting it on your faucet - or on the shower head in your bathroom. When this is put on, less water will come out. However, in most cases this will not be something that you pay much attention to. At least not until you discover that using a water saver can help reduce your water costs quite significantly.

So if you want to save a lot of money, then it is definitely a good idea to look around for a water saver that can be used to reduce your costs.

I'd still plant trees like mad and transport water below the surface to avoid evaporation.
 

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The cistern is a solution, but I'd prefer if we raised awareness to how much water ppl use in different things at home and to not be wasteful about it

the first thing to do is to close all cesme! is water wasting madness

also I think we need to have more deciduous forests.. specially in anatolian area, there are huge hills with literally nothing except some stones..

also we should ban poplar trees we have enough of them


maybe we should have more areas with

chestnuts trees
walnut trees
olive trees (begin to use not only the olives but also the extreem healthy leaves)

and all in a scale like we have with hazelnut trees in black sea region..
 

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the first thing to do is to close all cesme! is water wasting madness

also I think we need to have more deciduous forests.. specially in anatolian area, there are huge hills with literally nothing except some stones..

also we should ban poplar trees we have enough of them


maybe we should have more areas with

chestnuts trees
walnut trees
olive trees (begin to use not only the olives but also the extreem healthy leaves)

and all in a scale like we have with hazelnut trees in black sea region..

But the problem is that not all trees can grow without supervision and survive Turkey's climate. But with Drone technology it would become much easier to do all these things.

- Drone's for planting capsules with seed, fertilizer, liquid.
- Drone's for watering/spraying or such.
- Drone's for laying more fertilizer etc.

And so on. I also think we need to establish a community center in rural places where there is a tractor and other tools for renting for a day. If the need is great then have more tractors in that community center with dedicated mechanics and agricultural experts.
 

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Turkey to build 150 underground dams to fight drought​

ANKARA​

Turkey to build 150 underground dams to fight drought

Turkey is planning to build up to 150 underground dams as part of the government’s Drought Action Plan, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Bekir Pakdemirli has said.

The ministry has devised an action plan to overcome the impact of global warming.

“Water is like a precious material, and Turkey may risk becoming one of the countries experiencing drought in the years to come,” Pakdemirli said.

The government is working on an action plan to be launched in 2021, and the focus will be on building underground dams, the minister told reporters, noting that building underground dams were relatively easier.

“We do not have to deal with expropriation issues when building such facilities, and those dams do not trigger social problems with people living on the construction site. Besides, underground dams prevent vaporization,” Pakdemirli added.

Those dams collect waters running underground at certain location, he furthered.

“We are targeting to build as much as 150 underground dams until 2023,” the minister said.

The action plan will also raise awareness among the public about the importance of saving water, which will constitute the second pillar of the initiative, according to Pakdemirli.

“Every single citizen needs to save water. We should consider water a precious material, just like gold or a piece of jewelry. Today we do not have a serious problem, but the chances of encountering water shortage problems in 20 years from now are increasing,” he said.

Pakdemirli also underlined that Turkey might need to embark on water-saving irrigation methods in the face of the impending threats.

Underwater trickle irrigation systems save up to 30 percent to 40 percent water and help open up drylands to agricultural activities, he said.

The local administrations also need to take action to prevent seepage losses, which in certain districts can reach up to 80 percent, Pakdemirli said, noting that the seepage loss rate is around 37 percent on average across the country.



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It's going to be very expensive to build underground "dams", I think they mean cisterns right ?

We do have an insane underground cave network many places in Turkey. But the water is probably being led elsewhere after a certain level. Which is why these caves aren't filled up with water to the top.

The cistern is a solution, but I'd prefer if we raised awareness to how much water ppl use in different things at home and to not be wasteful about it.




I'd still plant trees like mad and transport water below the surface to avoid evaporation.
Actually a few start-up companies has offered municipalities some projects about covering top of water canals with solar panels. The feasibility study has shown it was nearly (not quite near but at least in the same magnitude) at the same cost as installing concrete-metal tops, and the electricity generated + amount of water saved would cover investment in less than 5 years.
It was specifically targeted for southeastern cities, i don't know if there is any progress.
 

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Actually a few start-up companies has offered municipalities some projects about covering top of water canals with solar panels. The feasibility study has shown it was nearly (not quite near but at least in the same magnitude) at the same cost as installing concrete-metal tops, and the electricity generated + amount of water saved would cover investment in less than 5 years.
It was specifically targeted for southeastern cities, i don't know if there is any progress.
I think what Turkey lacks is easy investment and return on investment solutions, crowdfunding type. E.g. Turkish bank should work together with state on a simple investment and return on investment solution, people should be free to chip in with any currency they like.

I wouldn't mind receiving my investment back interest free, as long as I get back the money I invested
 

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It's going to get worse. Dams might be good for energy and such, but the government hasn't been as diligent on combating the enviromental disaster it brings.

I can only hope nature will be kinder, but with the rise in temperature doesn't bode well.
Their precious canal will drain Istanbul water even more. They doing something without consultation with scientists, such result is normal.
 

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Bring water restrictions, in Australia we had the same problem but it worked.
 

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What are the restrictions?

Had like 5 stages of water restrictions. Not to mention a lot of water saving technology was invested like new shower heads also building reservoires.

Also lots of fines for people wasting water for stupid shit.
 

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UN recognizes Turkey's success in forestation efforts​

ANKARA- Anadolu Agency​

UN recognizes Turkeys success in forestation efforts

Turkey's success in increasing its forest assets was certified by the U.N., with the country ranking first in Europe and sixth worldwide for realizing afforestation work the most extensively, according to a recent report by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) covering the period between 2015-2020.

The Global Forest Resources Assessment (FRA) report is produced every five years in an attempt to provide a consistent approach to describing the world’s forests and how they are changing.

"In the last 18 years, we have increased our forest areas by 2.1 million hectares. Our 2023 target is to reach 23.4 million hectares of forest area, which corresponds to 30% of the country's surface area," Bekir Karacabey, head of the General Directorate of Forestry, told Anadolu Agency.

He said Turkey is one of the rare countries that is increasing its forest area.

The acknowledgement in the FRA report of Turkey's success in increasing the forest presence and reforestation is welcome and very gratifying and rewarding, he noted

"All of this means the international recognition of the increase in forest assets in our country," he added.

Source: https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/un-recognizes-turkeys-success-in-forestation-efforts-162676
 

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Turkey’s damaged forest lands brought back to life​

ISTANBUL/HATAY​

Turkey’s damaged forest lands brought back to life

As more than 200,000 hectares of forestland turned to ash in the last 10 years in Turkey, most of the areas damaged were brought back to life as a result of the comprehensive works of the authorities.

In the last 10 years, nearly 2,500 forest fires damaged an area of 204,694 hectares across Turkey, according to the data of the General Directorate of Forestry. However, damaged areas turned green again thanks to nearly 100 million saplings planted within the scope of a project, YARDOP.

In line with the efforts of the authorities, mainly Mediterranean and Aegean provinces such as Antalya, İzmir, Muğla and Adana are among places that have been made greener by reforestation.

An area of 16,000 hectares was damaged as a result of the fire that broke out in the Mediterranean province of Antalya’s Taşağıl district in 2008. It was re-afforested after rehabilitation works, turning green again 10 years later.

In a fire in the Mediterranean province of Adana’s Feke district in 2003, an area of 100 hectares turned into ash. The region, which was cleared of damaged trees and reforested, was born from ashes with the green created by the seedlings planted 13 years ago.

Thousands of trees were destroyed in the fire that broke out in an area of 325 hectares in 2005 in the Aegean province of İzmir. The area, covered in black ashes, was restored after 11 years with afforestation work.

Almost 75 percent of the 161,000 hectares of land burned in the last 17 years was planted with 89 million saplings and 180,000 seeds.

In 2020, land preparation was made for the planting of saplings on 12,113 hectares of the 19,680 hectares that caught fire, and the planting and seed sowing operations of the 5,112 hectares of land were completed.

Among the most planted tree species were the Red Pine, Black Pine and Scotch Pine.

Some 90 percent of the causes of forest fires are human negligence, carelessness, accidents or the deliberate burning of forests.

Meanwhile, a “Tourism Forest Project” was implemented by 17 leading tourism non-governmental organizations in the country with the slogan “Tourism Forest for a Greener World.”

Some 100,000 trees will be planted in the Mediterranean province of Hatay this year with the help of donations.

Muharrem Tuna, the project manager and president of the Tourism Academics Association, stated that the aim of the project is to support the afforestation and erosion control studies carried out throughout the country.

The tourism forest project can be supported by text message or by money transfers.

Turkey has become the top country in Europe in an annual net gain in forested areas between 2010 and 2020, according to recent data by the U.N.’s Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO).


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Wtf man, why aren't you (government) telling this kind of news to the public more openly! Thank you!

Though the tender below might be one explanation

 

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Canadian company director: We're not going anywhere from Mount Ida​

Canadian Alamos Gold's license expired, and the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry revoked its forest use permit, which drew great public reaction after he prepared to mine gold with cyanide in the Kaz Mountains. Ahmet Şentürk, the general manager of Alamos Gold company Doğu Biga, who said that they have license rights for 60 years, said, “We are not going anywhere from Kazdağları”.​

16 March 2021 09:49Updated: 16 March 2021 10:30
  • Canadian company director: We're not going anywhere from Mount Ida

Canada li Alamos Gold 's gold mining and established in Turkey to operate East Biga general manager Ahmet Senturk, " Kazdaglari ' from're not going anywhere, 60-year license we have the right, Turkey mine beneath the earth, as we promised Republic we will take it out, ”he said. Canadian Alamos Gold's 10-year license expired in October 2019, and the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry canceled the permit for forest use, after 350 thousand trees were cut down in the Çanakkale Kirazlı region of Kazdağları and prepared to mine gold with cyanide.
While the call to the General Directorate of Forestry to 'rehabilitate Kirazlı' rose like an avalanche on social media, Ahmet Şentürk, General Manager of Doğu Biga, answered the questions of Aysel Alp from Hürriyet.

'WE PAID 54 MILLION TO THE CUTTING'​

Şentürk, "Since your license has not been extended and your forest permit has been canceled, will you go from Kazdağları?" “No, we are not going anywhere from there. We have a commitment to the Republic of Turkey. The first article of the Mining Law stipulates the extraction of underground resources for the welfare of the society, which we will do. Turkey is a state of law, where nobody does business, waving his arms, we too we are subject to the legislation. A Turkish company with foreign capital in East Biga, its investor Alamos Gold. 140 to Turkey directly, indirectly, we have invested $ 240 million; The sum of Kirazlı and Ağı Mountain, Çamyurt. We will spend another 160 million dollars for the construction in Kirazlı. We paid 54 million TL to the forest ministry for cutting trees. But our main investment expense was to search and find gold.
Kirazli field in the $ 4 billion Senturk indicating that the underground source said, "It's going to cost 50 per cent, 70-80 per cent of these costs will be spent on procurement of supplies in Turkey. in other sectors is vested in the state's mines in Turkey 4 main items of tax paid, the miners the right state, are paying the price of 8 items such as forest land. Therefore, roughly 20-25 percent of the 4 billion gold will have gone to the state. The rest is our company's profit. In addition to the priority purchase of gold produced Central Bank, MB take the case to be sold on the domestic market in Turkey Gold Exchange. In other words, even a gram of gold produced will not go abroad, ”he said.

WE EXPEND 9 YEARS​

Providing information about the working periods, Şentürk said, “Our construction period is 18 months, we will complete the production of our existing reserve and proceed to the closing process within 5 years from the moment we complete our construction and start production. In other words, its construction and operation will be completed in 7 to 9 years. We're not going to walk away by waving our hands. "We have taken the field from the forest, we need to rehabilitate and restore it better than before.

WE HAVE 60 YEARS OF RIGHT​

Şentürk said, "We were given 60 years of rights by the state in 2009, go and search, find it, you have the right to operate." . Here, our 10-year operating license expired in October 2019, we applied to the General Directorate of Mining and Petroleum Affairs (MAPEG) for an extension 6 months ago. They also examined us technically, the company fulfilled all its obligations, the license extension is appropriate, prepared a report and sent it to the ministry for approval. The Ministry has not approved it yet, it has not been approved for about 1.5 years. There is only one confirmation left. "
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'EVALUATION CONTINUES'​

The Ministry of Energy and Natural Resources responded to the written question sent by CHP Deputy Özgür Ceylan to Minister Fatih Dönmez on January 29, 2021. In the question regarding Alamos Gold, whose license expired on 13 October 2019, the ministry said, “The extension project sent by the license holder to the General Directorate of Mining and Petroleum Affairs (MAPEG) is still in the evaluation phase, and in case the extension license is issued or the license is canceled. Necessary notifications will be made to the relevant institutions ”. Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry officials also announced to Hürriyet that the forest's permit for the mine field in Kirazlı was canceled because MAPEG did not issue an extension license.

SEARCH ON REACTIONS​

Stating that they announced that they would conduct sustainable and environmentally friendly mining, Şentürk said, “We completed all our permits in 2019 and we were going to start construction. We explained ourselves well to the 8 surrounding villages and established healthy communication. But there was a reaction from Çanakkale Bayramiç, as a company with social awareness, we were not indifferent to this. We talked to the Ministry and stopped the project for a while, during this time our license expired. But we told ourselves to NGOs, chamber of commerce and chambers of tradesmen. We will employ 80 percent of the employees from the region, as we hired 245 people for construction, this number would have increased to a thousand if we had started. During the mine operation phase, we would employ 700 people. When the process stopped, we were very sorry and we parted our ways with those employees who are still unemployed for 400 days ”.

'IT DOES NOT MEAN THE MINISTRY GAVE'​

Şentürk said, "Since the license is not renewed during the period, will the forest, EIA and workplace permits be renewed from scratch? He gave the following answer to the question: “There is incompatibility between forestry legislation and mining legislation. To realize a mining project, MAPEG permission is not enough, permission is required from 17-18 places; We canceled our permit because there is no license extension in forest period. But this does not mean that the ministry has given up the allocation. "


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Searching for gold using Cyanide... isn't that dangerous for the environment ? What about safety procedures and such ?
 

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I wonder how many % of Turkish farmers actually have means of using drip irrigation or a water saving method of watering their crops. When I read news I get the impression that the percentage is low.
 
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