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the cia wants Kurdistan
I think groupings inside security apparatus of U.S. want to have and use it as a leverage point into the foreseeable future to counter two major powers of Middle-East, so they bring the heat on the rhetoric front; otherwise they're not stupid enough to enter a conflict against a coalition of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Russia with China backing them.
 

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People forget that the Allies of ww1 proposed the Greeks, Armenians and the Kurds get their own state in Anatolia.

USA actually pioneered this under Woodrow Wilson. USA for a short time participated in fighting the Turkish independance movement.

I dont think its something new that the USA would support a kurdistan as long as it suits their interests.

Its all about running weak states as puppets and pawns hence why the Greeks, Armenians and the Kurds all got promised a state long with huge chunks of land to go with it. Because easier to run pawns rather than ruling directly.

Ever since the Ottoman Empire lost WW1 and collapsed a lot of people underestimated the Turks. Lots of people believed they can never fight back as they lost war and were finished for good until they realised it was their homelands they were fighting for not a Empire.

If the Turks are racist thats good. Being a racist also helped them defend their homelands from invaders and internal traitors who are used as fifth columns.

Lots of Crimean Tatars and other Turkic peoples who lost their homelands to the Russians actually fought in the Turkish army instead of betraying the state that gave them a home.

While the Greeks, Armenians and Kurds along with a few Circassians spat at our faces.

Fck around and find out. Enough the bullshit sympathy. The Arabs rebelled and in the ended up getting colonised.

Same story with the Greeks, Armenians and the Kurds. Better to have have puppets and pawns ruling.

If sevres happened the Turks would have ended up like the Palestinians. Greeks, Armenians and the Kurds decades later would be butchering Turks one by one. Then Kurds and Armenians would butcher each other up for land claims.

Turks did what was necessary for survival. Look at the Native Americans and the Australian Aboriginals. Ataturk more so prevented the Turks ending up in such a awful and dire situation.

Whole world and the Ummah can condemn the Turks. But one day if they faced with such a situation lets see how they will react?
 
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I think groupings inside security apparatus of U.S. want to have and use it as a leverage point into the foreseeable future to counter two major powers of Middle-East, so they bring the heat on the rhetoric front; otherwise they're not stupid enough to enter a conflict against a coalition of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Russia with China backing them.
That is literally one of the 2 prime reasons for why the PKK was created by the US in the first place; the second being the massive resources that the US wants to take for free from kurdish-dominant areas

Good job👌
 

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That is literally one of the 2 prime reasons for why the PKK was created by the US in the first place; the second being the massive resources that the US wants to take for free from kurdish-dominant areas

Good job👌
PKK wasn't created by the US. Why do you keep harping on about this line?
 

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The prime reason for why I think that Turkey being expelled from the F35 program is a blessing in disguise
Whoever depends on the F35 jets will eventually find that the US isnt only sucking money from said country through repairs and operational costs but will also realise that the US literally owns the said country by the balls thus crippling its sovereignity


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Inf news: 'When you buy an F-35, you do not own the plane. The plane becomes your owner!
The USA sends a password to the countries purchasing F-35s before each use via the LINK-16 data sharing system in order to operate the aircraft and put it into combat mode (war mode) if necessary.
The British pilot cannot log in to the plane and cannot start it.
It is claimed that the South Korean pilots who bought 40 F-35s are "tired" of this situation.

 

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PKK wasn't created by the US. Why do you keep harping on about this line?
Because I believe that pigs like Ocalan doesnt have the courage of announcing the creation of radical communist institutions that eventually cripples nations back in 1973-1984 (if memory serves me right) without having a big backer that is instilling in him confidence that he will be protected when he achieves such delusions
 

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PKK wasn't created by the US. Why do you keep harping on about this line?
I remember that fee years ago in Hurriyet , the gentleman who was minister of interior before Erdogan, I forgot the name said" All left wing movements in Turkey were created by USA and EU , apart from the official Communist Party of Turkey, which was financed by USSR and who were basically harmless people "
 

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The prime reason for why I think that Turkey being expelled from the F35 program is a blessing in disguise
Whoever depends on the F35 jets will eventually find that the US isnt only sucking money from said country through repairs and operational costs but will also realise that the US literally owns the said country by the balls thus crippling its sovereignity


Translation:
Inf news: 'When you buy an F-35, you do not own the plane. The plane becomes your owner!
The USA sends a password to the countries purchasing F-35s before each use via the LINK-16 data sharing system in order to operate the aircraft and put it into combat mode (war mode) if necessary.
The British pilot cannot log in to the plane and cannot start it.
It is claimed that the South Korean pilots who bought 40 F-35s are "tired" of this situation.

I think, last year in interview with SavunmaSanayist , director of Havelsan disclosed that when he asked for a basic access to software of f35, he was plainly told " We are not selling the planes but sorties" .
In other words we are selling you absolutely nothing, you are just giving us the recket..
No sovereign country can accept such a deal.
 

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Not created because at first it had communist ideology but nowdays western are prime supporters of pkk

Ocalan also renounced communism overtime so just he can get more support.

Westerners only supported Turkiye was to hit Russian interests. At the same time West also worked with Russia to hit Turkish interests numerous times.

Cant trust both side hence why im pretty happy how Turkiye is balancing both sides but also doing their best to pit both camps against each other while trying to get something out it.

Samething needs to be done in the Middle East with Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran and Israel.
 

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Westerns were happy when Red Brigades killed Aldo Moro , bit later when Red Brigades kidnapped an American brigadier, they were annihilated on no time
Also Bader Meinhoff was hiding in Belgrade, at that time foreign secretary of Yugoslavia worked for the German intelligence.
 

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Turkey has been blocking NATO-Israel cooperation since October.

▪️Turkey argues that NATO should not cooperate with Israel until the war in Gaza is over.

▪️Turkey has vetoed all NATO-Israel interactions since October, including meetings and joint exercises.

▪️Turkey maintains that Israel’s massacres of Palestinians in Gaza are against NATO’s founding principles.

▪️Turkey will continue to block NATO-Israel cooperation until the war is over, preventing Israel from continuing or developing its interactions with NATO.
 

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