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Innovation is not Indonesia Forte at all at this stage as we are severely lacking in accumulated resource needed for the development of innovation and ideas. Copy paste of technology , stealing other ideas, working hard in heavy manufacturing and development of industrial engineering , diversification of the economy, increasing wealth accumulation should be the focus right now.
 

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I guess we need to come up with more new innovations huh?
India should be a top 10 country,top 20 at least for my country.

According to this report, the path is pretty clear for both countries as though there are improvements across the various factors to still do.....there is in both cases one factor that stands out as major obstacle that make their combined average lot worse than it needs to be.

For India its infrastructure (ranked 78), and for Turkey its institutions (ranked 101).

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Australia is in the Top 30.

Good but still disappointing.

This whole time I really thought we would be top 20. Still need a lot of time to be top 10.

Australia is low population country with tons of resources per capita. Its economic model is relatively assured this way.

Innovation is not such pressing concern, though good to have....and I would say Australia is doing fine to hedge here as much as it can.

It can also keep attracting talent from the world to its shores by its high wealth and development.

Other countries have less options but to innovate (i.e improve human resource as all other resources are simply too low per person)...so its different pressures at play.
 

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According to this report, the path is pretty clear for both countries as though there are improvements across the various factors to still do.....there is in both cases one factor that stands out as major obstacle that make their combined average lot worse than it needs to be.

For India its infrastructure (ranked 78), and for Turkey its institutions (ranked 101).

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We have some work to do.
 

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Some other factors emerging in India's market cap resilience vis a vis China (given their zero-covid draconian approach going on for long time now and also clamp down on various service + tech industries )...helping to drive supply chain investment shifts:

 

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Early fruit starting to happen, but a very long way to go still:

Apple iPhone Exports From India Doubling in Boon to Modi’s Plan​



To be sure, India is still far behind China. About 3 million iPhones were made in India last year, compared with 230 million in China, according to Bloomberg Intelligence estimates.

But moving out of China, where Apple has built a deep supply chain for close to two decades, isn’t easy. A Bloomberg Intelligence analysis estimated it would take about eight years to move just 10% of Apple’s production capacity out of China, where roughly 98% of the company’s iPhones are being made.
 

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iPhone maker taps South Asian nation again in push to diversify from China

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India is becoming a more important production base for Apple, as the company looks to diversify away from its heavy reliance on China. (Source photos by AP)
CHENG TING-FANG, Nikkei Asia chief tech correspondentOctober 5, 2022 15:00 JST

TAIPEI -- Apple is asking suppliers to move some AirPods and Beats headphone production to India for the first time, in a win for the South Asia nation as it attempts to rise in the global supply chain.

The move is part of Apple's gradual diversification from China, as it looks to lower the risk of supply chain disruptions stemming from the country's strict zero-COVID policy and tensions with the U.S.
Apple has been talking with a number of its suppliers about increasing production in India, including of key acoustics devices, as early as next year, three people familiar with the matter told Nikkei Asia.

In response, iPhone assembler Foxconn is preparing to make Beats headphones in the country, and hopes to eventually produce AirPods there as well, two people with direct knowledge of the matter said.
Luxshare Precision Industry and its affiliates, which already produce AirPods in Vietnam and China, also plan to help Apple make the popular wireless earphones in India, sources said. However, Luxshare is focusing more on its Vietnamese AirPods operations for now and could be slower than its competitors in starting meaningful production of Apple products in India, one of the people said.

AirPods were one of the earliest Apple products to be mass produced outside of China, with production shifting to Vietnam in 2019 amid fallout from the U.S.-China trade war. More than 70 million units are shipped each year, second only to the iPhone among Apple products in terms of shipment volume. The majority of Beats production has also shifted to Vietnam since last year, sources told Nikkei Asia.

Bringing AirPods and Beats production to India would enlarge Apple's production footprint in the country, following a recent announcement that the latest iPhone is already being made there. Apple started having some older iPhone models made in India in 2017 by a smaller supplier, Wistron, but only accelerated such production last year.
While manufacturing in India was initially aimed at serving the massive local market, Apple is now developing the country as a strategic production base, with exports intended for markets such as Europe, sources briefed on the matter said.

India, for its part, is already an important player in handset production, including smartphones and feature phones, with its global market share growing from around 9% in 2016 to 16% in 2021, according to Counterpoint Research. China's share declined from 74% in 2016, before the trade war and pandemic, to about 67% in 2021.
India plans to spend $30 billion to further strengthen its electronics supply chain, from semiconductors and materials to displays and electronics manufacturing, to attract more investment.
Foxconn is Apple's most important supplier when it comes to expanding production in India. The world's biggest electronics contract manufacturer has operated in the country since 2015, and has key production campuses in the states of Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu. Luxshare also aims to expand production in Tamil Nadu, while Pegatron, another assembler, has its iPhone production base in the same state.
Joey Yen, a tech analyst with IDC, told Nikkei Asia that India will emerge as a key alternative for electronics production outside China.

"India is learning from China's success over the years, and it has a similar potential to become a very meaningful player in the global supply chain. It has young engineering talent and a big workforce, and a massive domestic market as a foundation," Yen said.
The Indian government's long-standing efforts to woo investment in the electronics manufacturing sector are finally bearing fruit, the analyst added. "China's continuing Covid-zero policies are also pushing tech companies to seek alternatives, and India in the long run could have an opportunity to grow. However, it will still take a very long time for India to be more transparent on all its policies and really have a more complete supply chain," she said.
Foxconn declined to comment for this story. Apple and Luxshare did not respond to Nikkei Asia's request for comment.

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To get to No3; and bypass Germany and Japan is an uphill task. Unless average $100 billion FDI a year another $100 billion from internal resources including export earnings and borrowing, is required to get to No3 spot hence it is not that easy. On top of that political peace internally is also important. Let us wait and see that Modi delivers that.
 

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To get to No3; and bypass Germany and Japan is an uphill task. Unless average $100 billion FDI a year another $100 billion from internal resources including export earnings and borrowing, is required to get to No3 spot hence it is not that easy. On top of that political peace internally is also important. Let us wait and see that Modi delivers that.


@Nilgiri bro 🙏
 

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Seems they started investing even before the PLI scheme came in. After the PLI scheme came in, they wanted to make use of this and investing 1B more. Polymatech has already started commercial manufacturing. 4 Lakh chip everyday.
 

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Seems they started investing even before the PLI scheme came in. After the PLI scheme came in, they wanted to make use of this and investing 1B more. Polymatech has already started commercial manufacturing. 4 Lakh chip everyday.
We can never bow down

Enough is enough time for us to rise up
 

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Seems they started investing even before the PLI scheme came in. After the PLI scheme came in, they wanted to make use of this and investing 1B more. Polymatech has already started commercial manufacturing. 4 Lakh chip everyday.
@Rajendra Chola @Nilgiri bro

 

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Brother @Rajendra Chola @Jackdaws @Nilgiri did you know about this


No. I think the problem in India is not research but commercial value of such research. It’s the universities and private entities who should buy and use supercomputer for their research. And our companies don’t buy them and our universities except a few don’t do even research. And our supercomputer capabilities get stagnant.

As PC’s get more powerful, the need for
Supercomputer would go down except for very high intensive researches like space, military and probably future AI.
 

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No. I think the problem in India is not research but commercial value of such research. It’s the universities and private entities who should buy and use supercomputer for their research. And our companies don’t buy them and our universities except a few don’t do even research. And our supercomputer capabilities get stagnant.

As PC’s get more powerful, the need for
Supercomputer would go down except for very high intensive researches like space, military and probably future AI.
Yeah but i mean you do know what about exascale computing right
it's going right on schedule
If we do make one in 2024 it will be equal or greater than fugaku the no.1 supercomputer in 2021
How amazing did not know we were so ahead
It will literally put us among the top 4 nations
Us china india Japan
Even the ruskies don't have an exascale computer imagine what we Could do with that
Pakistan can't even dream of building one

😁😁😁 Can't wait bro
 

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No. I think the problem in India is not research but commercial value of such research. It’s the universities and private entities who should buy and use supercomputer for their research. And our companies don’t buy them and our universities except a few don’t do even research. And our supercomputer capabilities get stagnant.

As PC’s get more powerful, the need for
Supercomputer would go down except for very high intensive researches like space, military and probably future AI.
Human brain mapping advanced thorium nuclear simulator
An exascale is a really big thing bro bigger than asat bigger than even nukes in my opinion
It's the cutting edge of technology
 

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No. I think the problem in India is not research but commercial value of such research. It’s the universities and private entities who should buy and use supercomputer for their research. And our companies don’t buy them and our universities except a few don’t do even research. And our supercomputer capabilities get stagnant.

As PC’s get more powerful, the need for
Supercomputer would go down except for very high intensive researches like space, military and probably future AI.

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The cutting edge of technology 😀
 

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