Greek CG opened fire against Turkish Ro-Ro ship

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greece know how Turkiye always react it is words like "strongly protest".........at end Turkiye will do nothing as usual
 

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Micotakis is trying to provoke a war so he can become the second zelensky.

Greece's economy is going down the gutter( with no help coming this time as Germany and the rest of the eurozone is in a crisis itself), its infrastructure is on the brinks of collapse, its healthcare is subpar, its "sovereign" funds have been ravished and loans taken out by a alt-right pm to fund weapon acquisitions for a war which greece would have to initiate and Turkey finish, which they will be paying off the interest rates for the next 50 years. Its government is filled to the brims with golden dawn members, especially its fm is a joke on the global stage crying about Turkey at any event and visit he has even when his counterparts look cleary disinterested and annoyed by his antics. His "successes" are built on relations with certain countries with which Turkey will have good relations again in the near future making greece non-revelant once again to those countries. Its government has been exposed over the last weeks as an authoritarian alt-right regime in several european newspapers and the noose is getting ever tighter around his neck. More and more EU inquires will follow suit it is only a matter of time.

Micotakis needs distractions with an upcoming election. So he tries to provoke Turkey into firing on Greeks so he can go and cry in Brussel and Washington how the poor innocent greeks have been attacked by the barbarians and how he needs support and especially cash to save his economy or else who will defend europe.

He saw the russian invasion save Zelensky from loosing his presidency so he thinks it will save him when he provokes Turkey into a war. Of course he will act innocent as greeks love to do even after committing countless genocides and massacres over the last hundreds of years in the balkans, cyprus, greece and anatolia.

Let me be clear. The EU behind closed doors is annoyed by the alt-right regime ruling greece, verbal support comes from the fact that greece once Turkey opens the gates eventually will become their new trashcan to keep millions of refugees in and because how the EU is built. They will isolate greece promising it monitary help to integrate the refugees and greece will abide or it will get the stick.

Germany and others are already working on changing the voting system inside the EU to an simple majority meaning not every countries has to vote yes for resolutions to pass. Who are the two countries that essentially threaten a veto everytime unless the EU gives the a new toy like a tantrum throwing child? Greece and Southern Cyprus.

I give it 5-10 years before we either see official measures and essentially an inofficial kicking out of those two countries and possible Hungray too from the EU or the EU demolishes them with threat that they are essentially sidelined and have no voice whatsoever and with it ends its constant tantrums.

Essentially we are talking about a pm who oversees a country which has the biggest debt inside the EU, which has an shrinking and aging population, which has bad relations with literally almost most of its neighbors, with an unexperienced military, which is already in an economic crisis which will only get worse over the next few months, which will see no help coming like last time as the whole eurozone is going down the gutters, with the threat of millions of refugees flooding the country, which violates the rights of almost all of its minorities (concluded as such by the ECHR), which has ravaged its funds to buy shiny toys for a war that will never come and even if it did those toys will not alter its fate in any shape or form, in which the opposition, journalist critical of the regime and even normal ass civilians who are critical of Micotakis and his golden dawn buddies are wiretapped and with an pm who is losing popularity with every passing day.

The so called cradle of democracy.
 
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Greece in the last 1 month:
  • Installing radar locks on Turkish warplanes on NATO mission.
  • Installing a radar lock on a Turkish plane on NATO mission with the S-300.
  • To open fire on the Ro-ro ship off Bozcaada.
  • Then send a letter to UN, US, EU for help against "provocation" of Turkiye.

Provocations still continue.
 

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Greece in the last 1 month:
  • Installing radar locks on Turkish warplanes on NATO mission.
  • Installing a radar lock on a Turkish plane on NATO mission with the S-300.
  • To open fire on the Ro-ro ship off Bozcaada.
  • Then send a letter to UN, US, EU for help against "provocation" of Turkiye.

Provocations still continue.
We need to keep our cool.
This is just the beginning.
 

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They want us to react, so that the whole West can throw money in the trashcan against Turkey, like the West did with Ukraine.

Ukraine and Greece: both fucked.
 

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If there is war then Türkiye needs to strike them in such a way that they will not recover from. Its already a country on life support so if something happens, they need to be crushed without ever being able to become a threat again.
 

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The Greeks are clearly trying to provoke Turkey into an all-out war

It seems that the recent boon in turkish defemce industry, coupled with both the lack of Greece's economy, technology, defemce industry and Ukrainian-Russian war has motivated Greece to initiate a scenario in which Greece appears as the weakling who is being hunted by the cruel viscious Turks so that the West can aid Greece in its endeavour to win against Turkey

I hope that Turkey persists and dont follow the path of confrontation since this is clearly a trap! Turkey must keep its cool as much as possible and grit its teeth since this is just the beginning and more serious provocations will eventually come. This is because many prominent greek backers like the UAE are slowly shifting to Turkey's side
 

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Micotakis is trying to provoke a war so he can become the second zelensky.

Greece's economy is going down the gutter( with no help coming this time as Germany and the rest of the eurozone is in a crisis itself), its infrastructure is on the brinks of collapse, its healthcare is subpar, its "sovereign" funds have been ravished and loans taken out by a alt-right pm to fund weapon acquisitions for a war which greece would have to initiate and Turkey finish, which they will be paying off the interest rates for the next 50 years. Its government is filled to the brims with golden dawn members, especially its fm is a joke on the global stage crying about Turkey at any event and visit he has even when his counterparts look cleary disinterested and annoyed by his antics. His "successes" are built on relations with certain countries with which Turkey will have good relations again in the near future making greece non-revelant once again to those countries. Its government has been exposed over the last weeks as an authoritarian alt-right regime in several european newspapers and the noose is getting ever tighter around his neck. More and more EU inquires will follow suit it is only a matter of time.

Micotakis needs distractions with an upcoming election. So he tries to provoke Turkey into firing on Greeks so he can go and cry in Brussel and Washington how the poor innocent greeks have been attacked by the barbarians and how he needs support and especially cash to save his economy or else who will defend europe.

He saw the russian invasion save Zelensky from loosing his presidency so he thinks it will save him when he provokes Turkey into a war. Of course he will act innocent as greeks love to do even after committing countless genocides and massacres over the last hundreds of years in the balkans, cyprus, greece and anatolia.

Let me be clear. The EU behind closed doors is annoyed by the alt-right regime ruling greece, verbal support comes from the fact that greece once Turkey opens the gates eventually will become their new trashcan to keep millions of refugees in and because how the EU is built. They will isolate greece promising it monitary help to integrate the refugees and greece will abide or it will get the stick.

Germany and others are already working on changing the voting system inside the EU to an simple majority meaning not every countries has to vote yes for resolutions to pass. Who are the two countries that essentially threaten a veto everytime unless the EU gives the a new toy like a tantrum throwing child? Greece and Southern Cyprus.

I give it 5-10 years before we either see official measures and essentially an inofficial kicking out of those two countries and possible Hungray too from the EU or the EU demolishes them with threat that they are essentially sidelined and have no voice whatsoever and with it ends its constant tantrums.

Esasen AB içinde en çok borcu olan, nüfusu giderek küçülen ve yaşlanan, komşularının neredeyse çoğuyla ilişkileri kötü olan bir ülkeyi, zaten kıtlık içinde olan tecrübesiz bir orduyla yöneten bir PM'den bahsediyoruz. Önümüzdeki birkaç ay içinde daha da kötüleşecek olan ve neredeyse herkesin haklarını ihlal eden milyonlarca mültecinin ülkeye akın etmesi tehdidiyle birlikte tüm euro bölgesi bataklıktan aşağı inerken, geçen seferki gibi hiçbir yardım gelmeyecek olan ekonomik kriz. Asla gelmeyecek bir savaş için parlak oyuncaklar satın almak için fonlarını harcamış olan azınlıklarının (AİHM tarafından bu şekilde sonuçlandırıldığına karar verildi) ve yapsa bile, bu oyuncaklar kaderini hiçbir şekil veya biçimde değiştirmeyecek, muhalefetin ,rejimi eleştiren gazeteci ve hatta Micotakis ve altın şafak arkadaşlarını eleştiren normal eşek siviller bile telefonları ve her geçen gün popülaritesini kaybeden bir pm ile dinleniyor.

The so called cradle of democracy.
No need for war, you will shoot past the harassers or punish, it's that simple.

Sure, that's how you do it if you have proof. To avoid reaction from other countries. Otherwise, condemning it every time makes us look pathetic.
 

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Apparently, Greece has begun to realize that it is impossible to continue so called arms race and they are now sure that their violations, illegal actions, ocupation and expansionist demands which have no legal basis in the Aegean/E. Mediterranean, will be held to account so they are provoking Turkiye to create an early reaction and play the victim. They are trying to play a second Ukrainian role relying on protection agreements with France and USA. Their PM and foreign minister constantly reference Ukraine war and ask others to help for their maximalist agenda.

To understand the gravity of the position they are in, please look at this situation.

Greek Surface combatant:
Hydra class: 30 years old
Elli class:42 years old
Kavaloudis class: 40 years old
Laskos class: 44 years old
Votsis class: 47 years old

Greek submarines:
Oceanus class: 43 years old
Poseidon class: 43 years old
Glasgow class: 43 years old

Naval crafts are very costly to supply and take time to manufacture. Greece will have to have a German economy to replace all these systems with new ones in 10 years time period so it does not seem possible for them to compete with Turkiye in the Naval Forces.


Greek AirForce
84 F16V (2027-2028)
38 F16 B50+ (2027-28)
24 Mirage-2000
24 Rafale (2024-2025)
20+20 F35 (Request 2030's)


Turkish Air Force
170+ CCIP F16 (79 of them F16V upgrade request)
28 F16 B50+
37 F16 B30 (full Özgür upgrade package for B70 level)
40 F16V (request)

Fighter jet programs
TFX MMU: 2028 first delivery (official plan)
Hürjet: 2025 trainer variant first delivery (official plan)
MIUS fighter drone: 2025 first delivery
TISU stealth combat drone: (?)
Hundreds of armed drones and Drones with AESA/BVR missiles, Drone with Surveillance radars, Drone with Jammer sensors, AC variants

The gravity of the situation between two air force will also be revealed in the coming years. In particular, manned/unmanned vehicles to be equipped with domestic BVR missiles will constitute a major strength factor. In the air force, Thr platforms equipped with state of art GAN AESA radars and Ramjet BvR missiles that are more capable than their counterparts will not only cause a perfect numerical superiority but also a great tactical and technological superiority against Greeks. This is known by not only Greece but also the states who promise a protection umbrella to them and want to use this debt-ridden, aging state against Turkiye very well.
 

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In my opinion, their is only one possibility to solve the problem. Cut Aegis in half and recognize N.C.as a sovereign state.
 

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We're about to finish our top projects. We have to note all of these and wait for the right moment like 2030
 

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It seems they are butthurt about Izmir how they failed to destroy the Turks.

Whats funny they got so far in Anatolia because they invaded a crippled Ottoman Empire and got defeated by Ottoman officers who formed the Turkish army 🤣

Ataturk really kicked their asses so bad so to celebrate the anniversary they do this kind of crap.

Yeah lets talk about how superior they are when a bunch of Nomads tookover Anatolia and ruled over Greece for 400 years.

Greeks always constantly provoked and fought the Tutks only to get curb stomped numerous times.

Lets not forget how they started the crusades by begging the pope for help and got their own capital sacked 🤣
 

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The Greeks are clearly trying to provoke Turkey into an all-out war

It seems that the recent boon in turkish defemce industry, coupled with both the lack of Greece's economy, technology, defemce industry and Ukrainian-Russian war has motivated Greece to initiate a scenario in which Greece appears as the weakling who is being hunted by the cruel viscious Turks so that the West can aid Greece in its endeavour to win against Turkey

I hope that Turkey persists and dont follow the path of confrontation since this is clearly a trap! Turkey must keep its cool as much as possible and grit its teeth since this is just the beginning and more serious provocations will eventually come. This is because many prominent greek backers like the UAE are slowly shifting to Turkey's side

Seljuks were actually going to conquer Egypt until the Byzantines provoked them with raids and hostile actions against them.

Every time Greeks provoke a fight its really their own fault.

What happened they pissed off the Turks who were at war with the Fatimids and planned on conquering Egypt and went and conquered the Anatolian heartlands.

I always said this before the Greeks will always provoke a reaction and will try to bait the Turks.

The problem the more annoying they get with their stupid shit the more it will cause a reaction.
 

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