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Oxygen leak kills 22 in Indian hospital as Covid crisis worsens​


Hospitals in Delhi say they only have enough oxygen to last eight to 24 hours

At least 22 patients have died in a hospital in western India after a disruption to their oxygen supply caused by a leaking tank, the health minister said, as a nationwide surge in coronavirus cases soaks up supplies of the crucial gas.

The incident in the city of Nashik, one of India’s worst-hit areas, happened after the tank of gas leaked, said Rajesh Tope, the health minister of Maharashtra


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Oxygen leak kills 22 in Indian hospital as Covid crisis worsens​


Hospitals in Delhi say they only have enough oxygen to last eight to 24 hours

At least 22 patients have died in a hospital in western India after a disruption to their oxygen supply caused by a leaking tank, the health minister said, as a nationwide surge in coronavirus cases soaks up supplies of the crucial gas.

The incident in the city of Nashik, one of India’s worst-hit areas, happened after the tank of gas leaked, said Rajesh Tope, the health minister of Maharashtra


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Oxygen leak kills 22 in Indian hospital as Covid crisis worsens​


Hospitals in Delhi say they only have enough oxygen to last eight to 24 hours

At least 22 patients have died in a hospital in western India after a disruption to their oxygen supply caused by a leaking tank, the health minister said, as a nationwide surge in coronavirus cases soaks up supplies of the crucial gas.

The incident in the city of Nashik, one of India’s worst-hit areas, happened after the tank of gas leaked, said Rajesh Tope, the health minister of Maharashtra


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It's bad, situation is getting worse , the only silver lining is vaccination, hope people will go for vaccination as I personally know many who are eligible for vaccination but still avoiding it, once it will be open for above 18 age group it will help in improving the situation.

But the loss of life is biggest loss
 

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Indian Super Rich Flee World’s Worst COVID Outbreak on Private Jets​


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Fri, April 23, 2021, 12:36 PM·4 min read

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Eight private jets carrying India’s super wealthy—and potentially the coronavirus—landed in London ahead of the U.K.’s 4 a.m. ban on travel from India, according to the London Times. The U.K. added India to its “red list” of pandemic-stricken countries. As of Friday, any Britons returning from India must quarantine for 10 days in a government-approved hotel. All non-British or non-Irish citizens will be banned entirely from entering the country if they have been in India in the previous 10 days. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson had to cancel his own state visit to India scheduled for next week as a “precautionary measure.”
The last of the luxury airliners to arrive, VistaJet Bombardier Global 6000, which left Dubai Thursday to collect passengers in Mumbai, landed at 3:15 a.m., just 44 minutes before the restrictions took place.
The private jet passengers were fleeing unimaginable horror back home. At least 14 COVID-19 patients perished in a devastating fire that ripped through an ICU ward in one of India’s overcrowded hospitals about 70 miles outside Mumbai. The fire that broke out around 3 a.m. Friday morning was contained and extinguished, but not before 14 patients—many who were intubated and hard to evacuate—had died. “Around 90 patients were admitted to the hospital at the time of the incident,” Dilip Shah, the head of the Vijay Vallabh Hospital where it happened, said in a statement Friday.
 

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Man hopefully India can over turn the corona wave.

So awful and sad. All the best to everybody in India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.
 

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Finally,India asked the world for help,about time.

Specific countries with specific stockpiled resources that they can spare (that we need right now) are asked for help, but most of the world is not in position to be requested for help.

Past the source + introduction of virus itself, the current problem is to mostly to be dealt with internally given the total ignorance paid to it (things like the 150 day 2nd wave time and prepping logistics for it and not opening up uneccesary activities) and squandering of resource and policy by our administrations (centre and state).


With high-resource countries, we have been pressuring US/West for more than a week (and even longer) to release vaccine input materials (specifically needed by the COVAX) that they have stockpiled and have put on no-export list.

Then their media and even officials target SII-Covax program on top for not doing enough to help world....while they remain non-committal on the provision of these inputs at same time. Basically a way for them to launder their blame and own fault onto India.

It is taking quite a big dent to world cooperation....so I don't think we are going to venture out too much on this past specifics.

Don't get me started on how this whole thing started quite unnecessarily due to one country's regime.

If the world truly wants to help, it will help with dealing with that regime long term.
 

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Specific countries with specific stockpiled resources that they can spare (that we need right now) are asked for help, but most of the world is not in position to be requested for help.

Past the source + introduction of virus itself, the current problem is to mostly to be dealt with internally given the total ignorance paid to it (things like the 150 day 2nd wave time and prepping logistics for it and not opening up uneccesary activities) and squandering of resource and policy by our administrations (centre and state).


With high-resource countries, we have been pressuring US/West for more than a week (and even longer) to release vaccine input materials (specifically needed by the COVAX) that they have stockpiled and have put on no-export list.

Then their media and even officials target SII-Covax program on top for not doing enough to help world....while they remain non-committal on the provision of these inputs at same time. Basically a way for them to launder their blame and own fault onto India.

It is taking quite a big dent to world cooperation....so I don't think we are going to venture out too much on this past specifics.

Don't get me started on how this whole thing started quite unnecessarily due to one country's regime.

If the world truly wants to help, it will help with dealing with that regime long term.
really wish you write more about it ...please get started love to read your mind.
just to add one point ...it took me hours to convince my parents to get vaccine shots as the propaganda against vaccine is very strong , if people have taken vaccines when they asked to take some of the lives might get saved
 

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really wish you write more about it ...please get started love to read your mind.
just to add one point ...it took me hours to convince my parents to get vaccine shots as the propaganda against vaccine is very strong , if people have taken vaccines when they asked to take some of the lives might get saved

Vaccine hesitancy is a big problem worldwide....but yes always start with your loved ones and work outwards from that to do your bit to help with the crisis.

In fact India it is overall less the case (Shekhar gupta had good episode on it with some data). It is extremely strong here in North America for example....I would say at least 30% but could be up to 50% significant hesitancy...I dont know if its more than that (certainly is among younger folks I feel).

W.r.t India It is just very pathetic that most models predicted a 2nd wave coming at pretty much exact time it started here (w.r.t time since peak of 1st wave in 2020).....yet there was still things like mass-religious gatherings, election rallies, IPL and all other kind of crowds allowed to happen.

I can understand argument for work-related and basic services etc....but at 50% vax rate (one dose) for 60+ agegroup so far, we could not afford to be complacent till rest 50% are majority squared away too with at least one shot.

But a big "chalta hai" complacency set in and most Indians have affinity/habit to gather to begin with in high population density areas to begin with.

Then the usual souless lifeless characters in media and social media (both local and world) having field day with all the extreme sensationalism and tragedy-anecdote reel well past what is needed. Some take a sick pleasure in this I bet you.

I understand we should not downplay anything and flesh it all out so adequate pressure is put on those with power (that got us into this mess along with usual society habits) to do something to help......but some have taken it way too far and dismiss a lot of the growing response and some numbers stabilising and receding too in parts of affected country.

As many people and resources need to be put to addressing the "didnt prepare + responded late" situation here....and that also needs some level of the non-useful manufactured hysteria/panic to go away so they can do their job and have morale.

This same thing happened in lot of countries in 1st wave intensity wise (in media etc)...and they are suppsedly far more developed than India. It is something in human society and politics that produces this in times of crisis more than it should.

Anyway let us see.
 

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Vaccine hesitancy is a big problem worldwide....but yes always start with your loved ones and work outwards from that to do your bit to help with the crisis.

In fact India it is overall less the case (Shekhar gupta had good episode on it with some data). It is extremely strong here in North America for example....I would say at least 30% but could be up to 50% significant hesitancy...I dont know if its more than that (certainly is among younger folks I feel).

W.r.t India It is just very pathetic that most models predicted a 2nd wave coming at pretty much exact time it started here (w.r.t time since peak of 1st wave in 2020).....yet there was still things like mass-religious gatherings, election rallies, IPL and all other kind of crowds allowed to happen.

I can understand argument for work-related and basic services etc....but at 50% vax rate (one dose) for 60+ agegroup so far, we could not afford to be complacent till rest 50% are majority squared away too with at least one shot.

But a big "chalta hai" complacency set in and most Indians have affinity/habit to gather to begin with in high population density areas to begin with.

Then the usual souless lifeless characters in media and social media (both local and world) having field day with all the extreme sensationalism and tragedy-anecdote reel well past what is needed. Some take a sick pleasure in this I bet you.

I understand we should not downplay anything and flesh it all out so adequate pressure is put on those with power (that got us into this mess along with usual society habits) to do something to help......but some have taken it way too far and dismiss a lot of the growing response and some numbers stabilising and receding too in parts of affected country.

As many people and resources need to be put to addressing the "didnt prepare + responded late" situation here....and that also needs some level of the non-useful manufactured hysteria/panic to go away so they can do their job and have morale.

This same thing happened in lot of countries in 1st wave intensity wise (in media etc)...and they are suppsedly far more developed than India. It is something in human society and politics that produces this in times of crisis more than it should.

Anyway let us see.
Thanks for the writeup, actually one keyword you mentioned is "chalta hai" attitude. When I visit family as a habit I always wear seatbelts even my own family it's not necessary here the same thing goes with wearing helmets and following the red lights.

Regarding vaccine, my niece who is 16 years old asked my sister to get vaccinated on 1st May, so the hope is Millenials in India are far more aware and bold to question. Hope people will get vaccinated and the situation comes under control.

Regarding media yes situation is bad but showing dead bodies in shamshan ghats is really bad nothing more than sensationalization, due to this panic even people with mild symptoms are approaching hospitals.

Regarding political rallies do you remember Bihar election people as well as politicians were for more cautious but this time everyone seems to have dropped the guard .

The bottom line is no one can save people when they themselves are not serious about their own life
 

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Do you think India has now resorted to herd immunity???

Herd immunity no doubt comes at a enormous cost but man the loss of life is pretty tragic.
 

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