India India Defence Exports

[Gessler]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1590221879193010177

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1590253647828783106

Rumor has it the customer is Saudi Arabia

 

[Rajendra Chola]

Bharat Forge which has diversified heavily into defence manufacturing in the last few years, has developed a range of products including a range of artillery guns.​

In a major success for Indian firm KalyStrategic Systems Limited on Wednesday announced receiving an order worth USD 155 million for supplying howitzers.

However, the Baba Kalyani-owned company did not disclose the buyer except for clarifying that it was in a non-conflict zone.

"We are pleased to inform that Kalyani Strategic Systems Limited, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Company, has been awarded an export order for a 155mm Artillery Gun platform to be executed over a 3-year timeframe. The total value of the order is USD 155.50 million," the company said in a statement.

"This order, to a non-conflict zone, is a great testament to the Indian government's Aatmanirbhar Bharat agenda and its sustained push to promote exports of Indigenously Designed Developed and Manufactured (IDDM) advanced defense platforms from India," it said.

Kalyani is one of the major investors in the defense sector and has been offering a number of weapon systems to India as well as foreign countries.

The company has been working with Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to develop the advanced tower artillery gun system (ATAGS) and has also developed an ultra-light howitzer.

The Prime Minister has also urged the defence industry to develop its products for the global market and achieve USD 5 billion targets by 2025


The exact model ordered isn't specified but here's a lineup of Kalyani's artillery systems

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“This order, to a non-conflict zone, is a great testament to the Government of India’s AatmaNirbhar Bharat agenda and its sustained push to promote exports of Indigenously Designed Developed and Manufactured (IDDM) advanced defence platforms from India,” the statement added.

Bharat Forge which has diversified heavily into defence manufacturing in the last few years, has developed a range of products including a range of artillery guns. While it has sold 60 of its Kalyani-M4 armoured vehicles to the Indian Army with 30 more on order, it is yet to get a domestic order for its artillery guns.

At the recent DefExpo in Gujarat, there was lot of interest in the artillery guns from South East Asia and Africa. Company officials said at the Expo that they have secured export orders for the Kalyani-M4 vehicles

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...tillery-guns-bharat-forge/article66114715.ece

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Was about to post it

Great news. Much greater than Pinaka export. Cos even though Indian army has finished evaluation of atleast one of Kalyani products, the final order is still being awaited by CCS.
And here they have a product which has cleared the foreign country’s testing requirements even before it has compeleted Indian armed forces testing. Their product, research and testing regimen has matured.

The pinaka system on the other hand has been in production for nearly 2 decades.

 

[Rajendra Chola]

Rumor has it the customer is Saudi Arabia

Guess they are. And they are also evaluating 105mm Jeep mounted system from Kalyani. Think it’s called Garuda

 

[Zapper]

Was about to post it

Great news. Much greater than Pinaka export. Cos even though Indian army has finished evaluation of atleast one of Kalyani products, the final order is still being awaited by CCS.
And here they have a product which has cleared the foreign country’s testing requirements even before it has compeleted Indian armed forces testing. Their product, research and testing regimen has matured.

The pinaka system on the other hand has been in production for nearly 2 decades.

IA wants ATAGS to clear inter-galactic trials which is totally justifiable in this day and age...only a noob army would induct a weapons platform without clearing some sort of space trials

 

[Nilgiri]

Many of the earlier exports are found in the RnD archive and similar threads:

Indian R&D Programs and Acquisitions

Expert panel to help DRDO prepare for futuristic battles, defence needs DRDO chief G Satheesh Reddy has constituted a five-member committee and asked it to submit its report within 45 days...

defencehub.live

Please compile here going forward but continue cross-posting in the earlier ones as you prefer to as well.

@Zapper et al.

 

[Zapper]

Rumor has it the customer is Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia did test the Bharat 52 previously but some reports said the order is from a "non-conflict zone country"

 

[Zapper]

@Nilgiri can you merge the below thread here

https://defencehub.live/threads/awa...rtillery-guns-bharat-forge.15627/#post-225677

 

[Zapper]

Rumor has it the customer is Saudi Arabia

Apparently the country is Armenia

Bharat Forge's subsidiary to sell 155-mm artillery at $155 mn to Armenia​

https://www.business-standard.com/a...lery-at-155-mn-to-armenia-122110901619_1.html

 

[Zapper]

In an unprecedented breakthrough in indigenous weapons systems exports, Pune-based Bharat Forge announced on Wednesday that Kalyani Strategic Systems – a wholly owned subsidiary – “has been awarded an export order for a 155-millimetre (mm) artillery gun platform to be executed over a three-year time frame”

"We are pleased to inform that Kalyani Strategic Systems Limited, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Company, has been awarded an export order for a 155mm Artillery Gun platform to be executed over a 3-year timeframe. The total value of the order is USD 155.50 million," the company said in a statement.

"This order, to a non-conflict zone, is a great testament to the Indian government's Aatmanirbhar Bharat agenda and its sustained push to promote exports of Indigenously Designed Developed and Manufactured (IDDM) advanced defense platforms from India," it said.

Kalyani is one of the major investors in the defense sector and has been offering a number of weapon systems to India as well as foreign countries.

The company has been working with Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to develop the advanced tower artillery gun system (ATAGS) and has also developed an ultra-light howitzer.

The Prime Minister has also urged the defence industry to develop its products for the global market and achieve USD 5 billion targets by 2025


The exact model ordered isn't specified but here's a lineup of Kalyani's artillery systems

ALSO READ

Army to get more M4 armoured vehicles, with Spike missiles​

“This order, to a non-conflict zone, is a great testament to the Government of India’s AatmaNirbhar Bharat agenda and its sustained push to promote exports of Indigenously Designed Developed and Manufactured (IDDM) advanced defence platforms from India,” the statement added.

Bharat Forge which has diversified heavily into defence manufacturing in the last few years, has developed a range of products including a range of artillery guns. While it has sold 60 of its Kalyani-M4 armoured vehicles to the Indian Army with 30 more on order, it is yet to get a domestic order for its artillery guns.

At the recent DefExpo in Gujarat, there was lot of interest in the artillery guns from South East Asia and Africa. Company officials said at the Expo that they have secured export orders for the Kalyani-M4 vehicles

https://www.business-standard.com/a...lery-at-155-mn-to-armenia-122110901619_1.html

 

[Zapper]

This is the second deal Armenia signed with India within the last couple of months.

The previous deal was valued at $260mn to export missiles, rockets, radars and ammunition

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https://defencehub.live/threads/ind...missiles-rockets-radars-and-ammunition.15094/

 

[Rajendra Chola]

Apparently the country is Armenia

Bharat Forge's subsidiary to sell 155-mm artillery at $155 mn to Armenia​

https://www.business-standard.com/a...lery-at-155-mn-to-armenia-122110901619_1.html

Armenia is a conflict country or zone.

 

[Zapper]

Armenia is a conflict country or zone.

Well technically they're not in a conflict at the moment

 

[Baryshx]

Well technically they're not in a conflict at the moment

But emotionally it is an area of conflict, Turkiye and India should talk, establish better relations. Since India can establish relations with Russia and China, right?

 

[Afif]

But emotionally it is an area of conflict, Turkiye and India should talk, establish better relations. Since India can establish relations with Russia and China, right?

China and India what ?

Are you sure you live on planet earth ?

 

[Baryshx]

China and India what ?

Are you sure you live on planet earth ?

I think you go back to earth, yesterday's enemies are today's partners. It is very possible that the same things will happen in the future, the world is in constant change. When the enemy comes to their door, they even become brothers.

If India and Pakistan can enter the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, they can also enter into other relations.

You overestimate politics. Extremists may be ruling countries now, but with a new politician or policy, everything can change.

 

[Afif]

I think you go back to earth, yesterday's enemies are today's partners. It is very possible that the same things will happen in the future, the world is in constant change. When the enemy comes to their door, they even become brothers.

If India and Pakistan can enter the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, they can also enter into other relations.

You overestimate politics. Extremists may be ruling countries now, but with a new politician or policy, everything can change.

No offense, but I suggest you read basics of 'political theories and international relations.'

Idealist world view Iike yours is not taken very seriously in contemporary political thought, which is dominated by REALPOLITIK.

 

[Baryshx]

No offense, but I suggest you read basics of 'political theories and international relations.'

Idealist world view Iike yours is not taken very seriously in contemporary political thought, which is dominated by REALPOLITIK.

REALPOLITIK? In your opinion, India, China and Pakistan should be at war right now.

But the war is between Russia and Ukraine. According to Realpolitik, this should not have happened.

 

[Rajendra Chola]

But emotionally it is an area of conflict, Turkiye and India should talk, establish better relations. Since India can establish relations with Russia and China, right?

We are talking. Indian Turkish defence relationship were ready to take off till Ummah President Mr. Erdogan started to repeatedly make unwarranted comments on Kashmir issue on which Turkey has no locus standi whatsoever. We haven’t even let US or Soviet Union meddle in this issue back when they were superpowers.

As of now, Armenia is seeking our help primarily cos Russia is not able to help them, while Turkey and Israel are ideologically inclined to support Azerbaijan due to historical relation. But is this going to affect strong Indo Israeli relationship? Not a bit. That is realpolitik relationship which is not viewed by one country relationship with a third country.

But what Turkey did is directly damage the relationship btw india and Turkey. Is it reversible? Definitely yes. Probably with a new president or the current president has change of mind

 

[Afif]

We are talking. Indian Turkish defence relationship were ready to take off till Ummah President Mr. Erdogan started to repeatedly make unwarranted comments on Kashmir issue on which Turkey has no locus standi whatsoever. We haven’t even let US or Soviet Union meddle in this issue back when they were superpowers.

As of now, Armenia is seeking our help primarily cos Russia is not able to help them, while Turkey and Israel are ideologically inclined to support Azerbaijan due to historical relation. But is this going to affect strong Indo Israeli relationship? Not a bit. That is realpolitik relationship which is not viewed by one country relationship with a third country.

But what Turkey did is directly damage the relationship btw india and Turkey. Is it reversible? Definitely yes. Probably with a new president or the current president has change of mind

If you do realpolitik you should understand Regardless of erdogan, India-turkey defence relationship at any significant level is never gonna work out as long as turkey cosnider pakistan an strategic ally.

And ( fortunately or unfortunately, depending on person's view ) turkey always considered pakistan an strategic ally even when the hardcore seculars were in power. It is a long standing military to military relationship.

 

[Baryshx]

We are talking. Indian Turkish defence relationship were ready to take off till Ummah President Mr. Erdogan started to repeatedly make unwarranted comments on Kashmir issue on which Turkey has no locus standi whatsoever. We haven’t even let US or Soviet Union meddle in this issue back when they were superpowers.

As of now, Armenia is seeking our help primarily cos Russia is not able to help them, while Turkey and Israel are ideologically inclined to support Azerbaijan due to historical relation. But is this going to affect strong Indo Israeli relationship? Not a bit. That is realpolitik relationship which is not viewed by one country relationship with a third country.

But what Turkey did is directly damage the relationship btw india and Turkey. Is it reversible? Definitely yes. Probably with a new president or the current president has change of mind

Kashmir is a ridiculous issue, it will have to be fixed eventually. But as countries progress in their domestic politics like this, it is difficult to improve relations. Turkiye no longer looks at international relations with the old point of view, I think our President's advisor has changed.