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On this topic, I'll quote from my post elsewhere on internet:

"...Recently, there were back-to-back tests of a new version of the BrahMos cruise missile platform from both ship (VLS launch from recently-commissioned P-15B DDG) & land (triple-tube ground launcher). The official releases mentioned a new "control system" but didn't go into details. The NOTAM for the launches was ~800km from coast lending credence to this being the 'extended range' version that fully unlocks the potential of the platform (previously restricted by MTCR).

The most interesting aspect is that the P-15B DDG no longer uses the 3TS-25E Garpun-B radar for anti-ship fire control...this could indeed mean that the new 'control system' for the missile could include the indigenous RF seeker & data-link, which now allow the missile to be fire-controlled by the ship's main MFSTAR multifunction radar - eliminating the need for the Garpun Bal-E.

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(^^ Garpun radar on earlier flight i.e. P-15A DDG)

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3TS-25E Garpun Bal-E

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(^^ on P-15B the Garpun's traditional spot on top of the bridge is now taken by a Scanter-6002 surface search/navigation radar)

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example of TERMA Scanter 6000-series radar, license-built in India by TATA

The MFSTAR APAR can provide fire control-grade solutions over a much farther range, combined with the ship's ability for CEC/offboard targeting, prosecution of OTH surface targets over extended ranges (700-800km) should now be possible with a ~Mach 3 platform. All in all, a pretty significant development on the ASuW front for the Indian Navy, cementing a substantial firepower advantage over regional threats."

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the Oblique Launcher for Brahmos?
could you enlighten me regarding data link which being used by Indian Navy? Data Link II?
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Yes the Indian standard was developed some time back,

tactical data link known as " data link II "....or link 2 I have also heard it called.

I used to have a paper that referenced its development, but seem to have lost track of it.

@Paro or others might have some useful references on it.
 

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India’s Act east Policy will get a boost when another export order for shore based anti-ship variant of the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile by year end is Inked. Sources have confirmed to Financial Express Online “Talks with Indonesia are in advanced stage for the export of the Indo-Russian BrahMos supersonic cruise missile. The deal could have been signed earlier, however, due to internal matters of that country, by year end, or early next year the deal is expected to be sealed.”

Indonesia will become the second Asean member country after the Philippines to import missiles from India.

FinancialExpress.com was the first to report in 2018, that Indonesia was among the other countries in the region to have expressed interest in the BrahMos Missile.

The Asean nations had approached India for the BrahMos and Akash Missiles during the 10 ASEAN leaders met during the ASEAN-India Commemorative Summit in New Delhi in January 2018.

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Earlier this year, India and the Philippines had inked a USD 374.96 million contract for the supply of shore based anti-ship variant of the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile. This made the Philippines the first Asean member country to import missiles from India.

The BrahMos missile that Indonesia is expected to import from India is going to be fitted onboard its warships. A team from BrahMos Aerospace joint venture between New Delhi and Moscow has already visited Indonesia shipyard to study the possibility of fitting the missile.

The BrahMos is a short-range ramjet supersonic cruise missile and according to the company it can be launched from aircraft, ships, land platforms and submarines. And this missile can fly at a speed of 2.8 Mach, or equivalent to three times the speed of sound.

The BrahMos which has been developed at a low budget of $300 million is also sought by other countries in the region including: Malaysia which is set to announce its final decision to buy Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam.

Also Read: First ever missile export from India! After ASEAN nation, next could be UAE

Financial Express Online had reported earlier that Vietnam was in negotiations with India for both BrahMos and Akash missiles. Talks are also going on with Malaysia for BrahMos Missile, those it’s just in the initial stage.

With the deal with Indonesia expected to be sealed year end/early next year, it will give India a strategic hold in the region as well as give a boost to the economy.

The announcement of the sale of BrahMos Missile to the Philippines was initially made by the Russian side in New Delhi. Russia will have no objection to exporting to Indonesia as it is already selling Su-27 fighter jets as well as Kilo Class submarines to that country.

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The bilateral relations between the two countries have been deepening over the years. Indonesia is considered to be an important partner in India’s “Act East” policy.In 2018, Financial Express Online had reported that the bilateral relations between the two countries have been elevated to “‘Comprehensive Strategic Partnership’ when Prime Minister Narendra Modi had visited that country.

The main pillar of this partnership is based on maritime security and defence and security cooperation. And in 2018, the first ever Indian Navy – Indonesian Navy Bilateral Exercise ‘Samudra Shakti’ took place. This maiden drill focused on enhancing interoperability, expanding maritime co-operation, and to exchange best practices.

India and Indonesia are Indian Ocean Littoral neighbours and the two sides have been working towards strengthening military ties.

In view of the growing Chinese presence in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR), and its activities near Natuna Islands, both India and Indonesia are working towards deepening maritime cooperation and ensuring secure sea lanes of communication in the larger Indo-Pacific.
 

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What about CAATSA and all of that bul**hits???
is it still coming simply there are at least a Russian name in it?
 

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Russia will have no objection to exporting to Indonesia as it is already selling Su-27 fighter jets as well as Kilo Class submarines to that country.
Mig-29 and now Kilo. Our Anbu unit got exposed.

Does India still need to import some components for the missile from Russia?
 

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What about CAATSA and all of that bul**hits???
is it still coming simply there are at least a Russian name in it?

BrahMos Aerospace is technically registered as an Indian company, with DRDO as the majority shareholder (50.5%) with Russia's NPO Mashinostroyenia holding the rest. But we'll see how that is actually interpreted from a CAATSA standpoint...the US Govt has already shown a willingness to make exceptions in cases concerning India (official waiver still work in progress, but bipartisan support is there so likely to pass), we'll see if that extends to Indian-led dealings abroad, especially in the Pacific where such deals could help counterbalance the PLAN by helping countries in the region to build their own A2/AD networks.

Let's not forget the Philippines (technically a US ally) has also signed a deal for BrahMos worth $375 million in January this year and US didn't seem to mind.

Mig-29 and now Kilo. Our Anbu unit got exposed.

Does India still need to import some components for the missile from Russia?

Yes - I think the Ramjet engine is still of Russian origin, though am not sure if its imported wholesale or built here under license. The other important piece, the seeker, used to be Russian until recently but that was indigenized.

But like I said above, if the Philippine deal didn't trigger CAATSA, neither will a potential Indonesian purchase.
 

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NEW DELHI: The Indian Air Force on Thursday successfully test-fired the extended range version of BrahMos supersonic cruise missile against a ship target in Bay of Bengal from a Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jet. The range of the missile is 450-km.

With the successful trials, India achieved significant capability to carry out precision strikes from Sukhoi against land and sea targets over very long ranges.

"The IAF successfully fired the Extended Range Version of the Brahmos Air Launched missile. Carrying out a precision strike against a Ship target from a Su-30 MKI aircraft in the Bay of Bengal region, the missile achieved the desired mission objectives," the IAF said in a statement.

The extended range capability of the missile coupled with the high performance of the SU-30MKI aircraft gives the IAF a strategic reach and allows it to dominate the future battle fields, the government said.

The dedicated and synergetic efforts of IAF, Indian Navy, Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), BAPL and HAL have been instrumental in achieving this feat, the statement said.

Earlier in May, India had successfully carried out the first test of the extended range missile from a Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jet in the Bay of Bengal in a demonstration of deadly precision strike capability from long standoff distances.

A 800-km range variant of BrahMos, which is a conventional (non-nuclear) missile that flies almost three times the speed of sound at Mach 2.8, is also undergoing “developmental trials” at present.

The air-breathing BrahMos has emerged as the “prime conventional strike weapon” for the armed forces over the years, with contracts worth over Rs 36,000 crore already inked till now.

The Army’s BrahMos missile batteries, for instance, have been deployed in Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh as part of the overall military readiness posture against China.

(With inputs from agencies)

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NEW DELHI: The Indian Air Force on Thursday successfully test-fired the extended range version of BrahMos supersonic cruise missile against a ship target in Bay of Bengal from a Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jet. The range of the missile is 450-km.

With the successful trials, India achieved significant capability to carry out precision strikes from Sukhoi against land and sea targets over very long ranges.

"The IAF successfully fired the Extended Range Version of the Brahmos Air Launched missile. Carrying out a precision strike against a Ship target from a Su-30 MKI aircraft in the Bay of Bengal region, the missile achieved the desired mission objectives," the IAF said in a statement.

The extended range capability of the missile coupled with the high performance of the SU-30MKI aircraft gives the IAF a strategic reach and allows it to dominate the future battle fields, the government said.

The dedicated and synergetic efforts of IAF, Indian Navy, Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), BAPL and HAL have been instrumental in achieving this feat, the statement said.

Earlier in May, India had successfully carried out the first test of the extended range missile from a Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jet in the Bay of Bengal in a demonstration of deadly precision strike capability from long standoff distances.

A 800-km range variant of BrahMos, which is a conventional (non-nuclear) missile that flies almost three times the speed of sound at Mach 2.8, is also undergoing “developmental trials” at present.

The air-breathing BrahMos has emerged as the “prime conventional strike weapon” for the armed forces over the years, with contracts worth over Rs 36,000 crore already inked till now.

The Army’s BrahMos missile batteries, for instance, have been deployed in Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh as part of the overall military readiness posture against China.

(With inputs from agencies)

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size seems similar to me.
what are the improvements needed to extend the range if warhead and size kept similar?
 

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size seems similar to me.
what are the improvements needed to extend the range if warhead and size kept similar?

The volume of the missile always had the capability for longer than 300 km range....i.e Oniks goes up to 800 km.

So it is mostly matter of provisioning more fuel and updating the avionics for the extended range.
 

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