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Startup is making some advances for UAV propulsion:
- Poland Poland got approved to buy 360 Advanced Anti-Radiation GuidedMissile-Extended Range (AARGM-ER)
- Ukraine Ukrainian mechanics have mastered the repair of US M777 howitzers.
- TECHINT Germany arrests 3 suspected China spies
- Mil Intelligence Military court convicts US sailor of attempted espionage
- UK Is there any British officer or British military personnel here that I can discuss with?
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Any evidence of dry Kaveri progress? It says in the article results should be forthcoming mid-2024.
Also, any word on how the GE F414 deal is progressing?
Lastly, the SAFRAN AMCA engine proposition: any signs of progress? I have read a couple of articles recently (probably Indian press) which intimated that the selection of SAFRAN last summer as developer is not a 100% certainty. Reading between the lines, I get the impression that SAFRAN and India may not be able to agree terms on the deal (cost, TOT, who does what etc). If that proves to be the case, does India next see what terms it can get from RR and if they are unacceptable, put AMCA Mk2 on the backburner?
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Additional prototypes are being built. Don't know much other than that.
This is the latest:
Fighter jet engine deal with India to start this year: GE Aerospace's Amy Gowder
GE Aerospace Defence & Systems President Amy Gowder in an exclusive interview with ET shared that India's fighter jet engine technology deal with the US is progressing on time and a detailed technical proposal with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) will be shared with HAL soon. The timeframe for...
Still a ways to go before a partner is selected.
I would imagine so. That's the whole idea behind de-risking the program with staggered Mk1 and Mk2 developments.
If the Next-Gen engine doesn't get anywhere, an interim solution like F414 EPE may be sought at that point.
I don't think that India will be prepared to pay the price required to develop a modern 110kN engine. I imagine a figure in excess of US$10 billion will be required to include:
- cost of training and equipping Indian industrial partner to be able to use technologies transferred
- cost of technologies transferred
- cost of designing engine
- cost of training and equipping Indian industrial partner to be able to use production technologies transferred
- cost of production technologies transferred
- cost of capital equipment required to manufacture the engine
- cost of iterative development changes, ground testing, flight testing the engine
Throwing $2-3 billion at GE to develop the F414EPE into a 110+kN engine seems very attractive in comparison:
- low risk of design failure
- more predictable development schedule
- low risk of massively exceeding anticipated cost
Assuming I am not wildly wrong with my cost estimates, would it not be better for India to opt for the low cost AMCA Mk2 engine option and to start a serious R&D programme to learn how to design and build fast jet engines? By 'serious R&D programme' I mean scrapping the historical government-owned system involving a large number of entities concerned with different aspects of engine development, getting the right company, the right people, the right plant and equipment involved and GOI being prepared to spend US$500 million+ annually until the objective is achieved (assuming that amount can spent constructively).
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A lot of these, especially production-engineering know how would already be transferred as part of the F414 deal much before the NG engine is realized.
Not to mention, Indian agencies are not total novices when it comes to turbofan construction. Licensed production of both Western & Russian turbofans has been ongoing for decades.
Some, like the AL-31FP on Su-30MKI, have seen a very significant degree of indigenization. Including local manufacturing of single crystal blades.
And the Kaveri which was a domestic design did achieve 70-75kN wet thrust in testing. They just couldn't solve the noise & vibration issues involved in going any higher (to meet the IAF requirement) with the tech they had on hand.
Bottom line being, the point of the NG engine program is not to inculcate an aero-engine industry in India from scratch...the point is to help India surmount certain critical technological impasses which would simply take too long or too much in terms of R&D investment to do ourselves.
As of whether the whole thing is affordable or not is anyone's guess...but if you ask me, the alternative (assuming you want to reach the same goal end of the day) is likely to be even more expensive.
It's certainly more affordable (and the likely Plan B in case the NG program fails) but remember that one of the crucial goals of the NG program is joint ownership of IP.
They're already going for F414 for the Mk1 which will see at least 40 airframes inducted & certified to FOC standard. Which means building more of them shouldn't be a problem if need be.
But the Mk2 standard as its intended cannot be realized without the generational leap in electrical output that only the NG engine can provide.
Even the EPE cannot fulfill that. If the EPE has to come in place of the NG powerplant, then in all likelihood the version it would power would be something akin to a 'AMCA Mk1A' and not a true Mk2.
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Oh dear-my reply go lost somewhere.
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