TR Indigenous Made Firearms & Medium Calibre Weapons

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They had better pass to 5.56 mm. It would solve all completions from soldiers. Reducing weight how will effect reliability?
Should be the same or better. The fluted barrel, assuming MKEK did it right, improves heat dissipation even while reducing weight.
 

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US Army is looking into 6.8 caliber for the sake of body armor piercing capability at far distance.
We should look into it for the sake of verity in our capabilities. It shouldn't be too hard to introduce it with all the experience we have now.
 

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US Army is looking into 6.8 caliber for the sake of body armor piercing capability at far distance.
We should look into it for the sake of verity in our capabilities. It shouldn't be too hard to introduce it with all the experience we have now.
Our 5.56 and 7.62 stocks are huge makes no sense to move to 6.8 because some advantages.
 
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Should be the same or better. The fluted barrel, assuming MKEK did it right, improves heat dissipation even while reducing weight.
İ meant mechanical reliability. Thin ballistic parts might be broken under the high pressure of 7.62 cal.
 

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Our 5.56 and 7.62 stocks are huge makes no sense to move to 6.8 because some advantages.
So what. Every piece of equipment has its place. If other calibers are not ideal for certain purposes then you make new ones. We have both expertise and other resources to make them. US have even bigger stock but it doesn't stop them from making new ones. 6.8 is the midway between 5.56 and 7.62 for the laymen.
 

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So what. Every piece of equipment has its place. If other calibers are not ideal for certain purposes then you make new ones. We have both expertise and other resources to make them. US have even bigger stock but it doesn't stop them from making new ones. 6.8 is the midway between 5.56 and 7.62 for the laymen.
Our Armed Forces just recently got their new rifles (MPT-55/76) deliveries continue and now a new calibre should replace them? We are not the US we don't have their budget.

The US Army is switching because 1) 5.56 is their standard round 2) on longer distances (300+) it's not enough 3) problems to penetrate body armor 4) less weight compared to 7.62 5) they can dump the stock on their civilian market.
 

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Our Armed Forces just recently got their new rifles (MPT-55/76) deliveries continue and now a new calibre should replace them? We are not the US we don't have their budget.

The US Army is switching because 1) 5.56 is their standard round 2) on longer distances (300+) it's not enough 3) problems to penetrate body armor 4) less weight compared to 7.62 5) they can dump the stock on their civilian market.
We don't want to replace them, we want to supplement them. I would always see the positive side and think about what value it adds to our capabilities. If it works very well then we expand its stock if not we keep it limited. Thinking of how capable our small arms industry has become it won't be hard to make it happen. US Army is even trying to change ammunition types and are experimenting with different rounds. Our military is one of the most active in the world, anything that will help expand our capabilities is a welcome change.
 

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Footage of Ata arms UBGL undergoing qualification tests:

Very interesting launchers.

The Turkish Land Forces chose the grenade launcher of Akdas AK-40GL instead of the one of Ata Arms. While Ata Arms are stating weight of 1.3kg for empty GL without the stock about their BA-40 Akdas is claiming 1.470gr (not sure if mechanical sights included in the that) figure for their AK-40GL while with the stock system installed 2.510gr. Its weight is a little bit heavier than what I would like to see but otherwise very good. At the moment the Akdas AL-40GL is in the inventory of both the Turkish Armed Forces and the Security Forces Command of the TRNC.

A bonus video specially for @AzeriTank from the qualification tests of Akdas AK-40GL. 😄

A special note: There are viewers that are complaining about the kick of MPT-76. There is nothing wrong with the weapon and in fact it is pretty controllable for a 7.62x51 rifle as stated by Can Yazici before. In this video at 7:59 you can see how an experienced shooter can control the MPT-76 battle rifle in full auto mode.
 

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Very interesting launchers.

The Turkish Land Forces chose the grenade launcher of Akdas AK-40GL instead of the one of Ata arms.

This 2018 article says they also signed up for Ata arms. Not sure if anything changed. AFAIK they got both.

 

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Canik cuts off the iron sights, calls it CAS; Canik Advanced Sights.


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Not many know, UTAS UTS15 is perhaps the most showcased Turkish made weapon in western media. The ''assault shotgun'' in GTA5, it was also present in Battlefield 4 and as ''Tac 12'' in Call of Duty Ghost.


Link of the website of UTAS: https://www.utasarms.com/urunler
UTAS was tasked by Smith & Wesson to make the ''ultimate shotgun'' for the policemen. Smith & Wesson's criteria for the shotgun were: 12 Gauge, pump-action, less than 30" overall length, and 13-round minimum capacity.

It is most known for its futuristic design(though designer was actually an American named Ted Hadfield).

Note: Weapon was criticised for its unreliability but the company said over the years they have impoved the reliability by changing some plastic parts with metallic ones. At the beginning, entire weapon was made of plastic.
 

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Not many know, UTAS UTS15 is perhaps the most showcased Turkish made weapon in western media. The ''assault shotgun'' in GTA5, it was also present in Battlefield 4 and as ''Tac 12'' in Call of Duty Ghost.


Link of the website of UTAS: https://www.utasarms.com/urunler
UTAS was tasked by Smith & Wesson to make the ''ultimate shotgun'' for the policemen. Smith & Wesson's criteria for the shotgun were: 12 Gauge, pump-action, less than 30" overall length, and 13-round minimum capacity.

It is most known for its futuristic design(though designer was actually an American named Ted Hadfield).

Note: Weapon was criticised for its unreliability but the company said over the years they have impoved the reliability by changing some plastic parts with metallic ones. At the beginning, entire weapon was made of plastic.

was also in Season 5, Episode 5 of The Expanse. Future weaponry and space travel, oh hey here's a UTS15 lol
 

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was also in Season 5, Episode 5 of The Expanse. Future weaponry and space travel, oh hey here's a UTS15 lol
It always reminded me of Alien(1979) movie. It indeed looks like sth you use against xenomorphs in an abondoned space facility or station.
 
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