Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Madokafc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1525199701083144193

What's with this "gak ada duit" narrative?

he is always doing so, don't know what he is trying to portray lately

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1525660069026594816

if shit happen (god forbid) those can be revived again with some summoning rituals

Marines need working amphibious APC, more lethal individual firepower at platoon level (ATGM, RPG's and Manpads), more secure comms and support tools (NVG, thermal scopes, mobile jammer and GPS devices and so on)

 

[Madokafc]

The operational cost and logistics for gas turbines as the main engines that Maestrale have will go through the roof. And there's also the rumored Pohang class.

it just the operational cost increasing consideration is still need time until the said assets already come and operational. Meanwhile the Navy is starting to retired their old assets already and itching to retire those Van Speijk class and the rest of East German old stocks

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Marines need working amphibious APC

Then tell me, its better to have wheeled or tracked ?

Last time marine has wheeled it was BTR - 82 (I don't know how the fate of BTR - 4 they say it was too dangerous to employ while the sea isn't calm)

oh yes, please don't say NVG, even at best marine only Equipped with SS1 iron sight. Although ATGM and so on is mandatory, i hope marine and all branch of armed forces give ballistic vest Lv 3/4, and NVG, atleast if they cant provide Scope, pelase buy them wit AN/PEQ

 

[Madokafc]

Then tell me, its better to have wheeled or tracked ?

Last time marine has wheeled it was BTR - 82 (I don't know how the fate of BTR - 4 they say it was too dangerous to employ while the sea isn't calm)

oh yes, please don't say NVG, even at best marine only Equipped with SS1 iron sight. Although ATGM and so on is mandatory, i hope marine and all branch of armed forces give ballistic vest Lv 3/4, and NVG, atleast if they cant provide Scope, pelase buy them wit AN/PEQ

the last time i got news, they are considering AAV7 families and there is also ZAHA

 

[Lordimperator]

AAV7 families and there is also ZAHA

Zaha vs AAV7 which one do u personally prefer?

 

[Madokafc]

Zaha vs AAV7 which one do u personally prefer?

AAV7, second hand grants one if refurbished is already enough for our current needs.

The money should be allocated to get more individual equipment of our Marines and upgrade them into another level and to acquire more artillery and air defense system to support them, with only around 18 pieces of 105mm howitzer and around 20's of 122mm caliber MLRS is very lacking, they need more of them. Also, those 37 mm AA gun need replacement ASAP, bought MANPADS like Piorun or the likes is preferable for now if they don't have money for shiny items like Korkut and the likes.

 

[Van Kravchenko]

refurbished

Hemm......
I wonder what will they add in those refurbished other than digital control and radios. RCWS, nahh that to expensive.

105mm howitzer

Can we ask Murice to donate their M2 from WW2, Korean, Vietnam era too?
But, Forget about accuracy wkwk

MANPADS

Give that 61 - k back to moseum and start buying coldwar era MANPADS, Igla like maybe.

 

[Madokafc]

Hemm......
I wonder what will they add in those refurbished other than digital control and radios. RCWS, nahh that to expensive.


Can we ask Murice to donate their M2 from WW2, Korean, Vietnam era too?
But, Forget about accuracy wkwk


Give that 61 - k back to moseum and start buying coldwar era MANPADS, Igla like maybe.

American still have a lot of M109 155 mm howitzer lying in their dessert, even they offered the Malaysian and Malaysia just need to cash out some money to refurbish them....

South Korean have Chiron or better follow the Army footstep and get Starstreak, they are currently one of the best out there, just put the launcher above any 4X4 double cabs SUV, and you would get poorman mobile AA system.

 

[Van Kravchenko]

M109

Well, if that stuff can be bought and give to Army i think it's will booster up their ranks. But if it was for Marine i think they will be have hard time to deploy it. can we just use LST Lada to make it ashore ?

What i try to say here, what is best for marine corps artillery Bat? Towed or self propelled one. Last time we heard rumor that Marine want to buy wheeled 155 gun from Europe

Chiron

This one also good, but sadly sokor didn't make the over shoulder one.

Starstreak

Few weeks ago i've read that the user of Starstreak is prone to death since must guide the munition until last impact. But Britons offer low speed light weight one with IR homing called martlet, i think that stuff also good.

 

[JATOSINT]

Then tell me, its better to have wheeled or tracked ?

Both cleary have their own pros and cons thus we need both

Also, with advances in technology, there is a third option that offers a middle ground: rubber tack

even at best marine only Equipped with SS1 iron sight.

Nah, they are clearly better equipped nowadays (not all units oc):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1405500075942420481

 

[FPXAllen]

Also, with advances in technology, there is a third option that offers a middle ground: rubber tack

Did you mean rubber track? It's still counted as tracked, no?

If it's about the method of amphibious mobility, aside from tracked or wheeled, there's only one other that I can think of: hovercraft.

 

[Madokafc]

Well, if that stuff can be bought and give to Army i think it's will booster up their ranks. But if it was for Marine i think they will be have hard time to deploy it. can we just use LST Lada to make it ashore ?

What i try to say here, what is best for marine corps artillery Bat? Towed or self propelled one. Last time we heard rumor that Marine want to buy wheeled 155 gun from Europe


This one also good, but sadly sokor didn't make the over shoulder one.

Few weeks ago i've read that the user of Starstreak is prone to death since must guide the munition until last impact. But Britons offer low speed light weight one with IR homing called martlet, i think that stuff also good.

except starstreak flew very fast

or getting m777 should be within consideration, they are kinda like the ultimate form of towed howitzer today.

 

[JATOSINT]

except starstreak flew very fast

or getting m777 should be within consideration, they are kinda like the ultimate form of towed howitzer today.

Talking about howitzer (105 & 155)

How do the army and marine corps still planning to upgrade their arsenal soon? Especially with the former one as there has been no follow-up purchases of SK-made howitzers

 

[Madokafc]

Talking about howitzer (105 & 155)

How do the army and marine corps still planning to upgrade their arsenal soon? Especially with the former one as there has been no follow-up purchases of SK-made howitzers

The Army is in process to acquire new artillery tubes ( new towed howitzer in 155 mm class) and also including MLRS, also they would get short range ballistic Missiles.

The Marines still obscure in the tube artillery, but they would get new MLRS for sure.

 

[Lordimperator]

get new MLRS for sure

Czech RM 70?

 

[R4duga]

https://www.facebook.com/HumasPTPAL/posts/1927081247462352

 

[Lordimperator]

https://www.facebook.com/HumasPTPAL/posts/1927081247462352

FREMM?

 

[Aghost132483]

any news on progress of DRU, PT OPV 90 that's been conducted first steel cutting on August '21

Indonesian Shipyard Cuts Steel on New OPVs for TNI AL - Naval News

Indonesian shipbuilder DRU Shipyards (PT Daya Radar Utama DRU) cut steel for two new Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPV) for the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL). The ceremony took place on 26 August 2021 in Lampung (island of Sumatra).

www.navalnews.com

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1526908624144314368

 

[Madokafc]

Czech RM 70?

yeah, they want RM70 Vampire

https://militaryleak.com/2021/03/08...duce-rm-70-vampire-multiple-rocket-launchers/