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It's a cool-looking model, alright. But somehow seeing Pindad's nameplate on the ZAHA's front rubs me wrong.
I mean, it's not as if they developed it from scratch although it's a different matter if it's also a part of the deal with FNSS.
I doubt if MoU has progressed any bit (possibly waiting for a greenlight for procurement but Pindad could take initiative to start it, redesigning and tuning for Indonesia), but FNSS doesn't care about anything such.

Pohang supposed to be given out as a gift alongside some procurement, doesn't it?

its almost a year ehh?
AH140 involves a major customization so the delay is understandable but what the hell is wrong with FREMM contract that involves minimum customization? Financial realization of a contract shouldn't take this long.
 

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I doubt if MoU has progressed any bit (possibly waiting for a greenlight for procurement but Pindad could take initiative to start it, redesigning and tuning for Indonesia), but FNSS doesn't care about anything such.
Business is business, I guess.

I personally would prefer that Pindad or any other Indonesian SOEs in similar cases just state things as they are, and not try to give a false impression of "fully developed domestically" when they're not.

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AH140 involves a major customization so the delay is understandable but what the hell is wrong with FREMM contract that involves minimum customization? Financial realization of a contract shouldn't take this long.
Well, this is Indonesia that we're talking about. Inefficiencies aren't something that we're too concerned about. No wonder many foreign defense companies find it frustrating to deal with us.
 

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I personally would prefer that Pindad or any other Indonesian SOEs in similar cases just state things as they are, and not try to give a false impression of "fully developed domestically" when they're not.
Maybe because its a win-win solution?
Pindad-> can boost their popularity in public eyes.
Foreign company-> whatever, at least they can sell their product in Indonesia, the reality doesn't change that they are the one who did the RnD.
 

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Maybe because its a win-win solution?
Pindad-> can boost their popularity in public eyes.
Foreign company-> whatever, at least they can sell their product in Indonesia, the reality doesn't change that they are the one who did the RnD.
Yep. And the Indonesian public in general will be none the wiser.

Stroking the ego of "karya anak bangsa", and having the delusion of grandeur because of it.
 

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Well, this is Indonesia that we're talking about. Inefficiencies aren't something that we're too concerned about. No wonder many foreign defense companies find it frustrating to deal with us.
Lol it would be funny if they failed the 2nd times. Atleast ME countries like Egypt or Morocco interested to buy the allocated slot.
 

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Yea and how do Ukraine knew the location to be exact? Why the raptor stationed in Poland? why the P8 is still actively hovering around the "international or friendly airspace" nearby? Perhaps its the same thing when P8 hovering around Singapore airspace when they were not allowed to do in ours? Hard to tell :unsure: 😁
 

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