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Can Hisar A, O & U use the same launcher platform so they only need to change the missile pods?

What's the max range of Hisar O & U? Looking at the Wikipedia, the answers varies depending on the sources.

What's Siper actually? Another name for Hisar U variant with different spec than regular Hisar U or what?

Does Turkey planned for anti-ballistic missile variant of Hisar like Aster missile family in the future?

Hisar ;
A, IIR seeker short range - low altitude SAM
O, IIR or RF seeker mid-range - medium altitude SAM / point defense missile / naval point defense missile
U, RF seeker long range - medium altitude SAM

Siper:
Block I, RF seeker long range - high altitude SAM
Block II, Dual band RF seeker long range - high altitude SAM with limited ABM
Block III, Dual band RF and IIR dual mode seeker ABM

Most confusing part; Hisar - U has migrated to Siper family (thus into Siper battery) and shifted original Siper blocks by +1. Now, Siper block I refers to Hisar - U and block II refers to original first member of Siper family, block I.

Siper block I a.k.a. Hisar-U can be used from common launcher with Hisar-A/O and same battery formation but missile now has longer range than expected to Hisar battery with current formation is not enough for it.

Ranges are the grey areas, Hisar - O IIR has 30+ km range (some says up to 35), Hisar-RF is more than 50 km.
Hisar - U / now Siper block I is more than 100 km.
Siper block 1 / now Siper block II is unknown but expected to be 150km.
 

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If Marine requirement for armored cabin is true, there's 6x6 Caesar New Generation variant with armored cabin & fully automatic reloading system, same as Eva. This variant was ordered by Belgian army.

https://www.joint-forces.com/defenc...belgian-purchase-of-caesar-new-generation-sph

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And it's already in indomiliter https://www.indomiliter.com/nexter-systems-kembangkan-caesar-6x6-mark-ii-next-generation/
if they satisfied by the current caesar, caesar NG would be a good choice....
but if they wanted something more, such as more ammo storage, capabilities and ext, the Morana can do a direct fire, also the gun, ammo and stuff are more protected since it basically a turret, less trouble when finding or adjusting the cannon for a good firing position...
 

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That is interesting, i thought they were visiting a shipbuilding company (and yes it were), turns out SMP Ltd was one of leading manufacturer for submarine and diving system, they had very complex range of specialty on their products, and not only that, their products is integrated, from the Sub Rescue Vehicle to Decompression Chamber.

I think this would really benefit both of us, it would proof to be handy, to have an integrated rescue system. And yes im waiting this meeting would come to be great news in near future

check it yourself

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They want it bigger, OPV 90 class program from PT DRU (Noahtu shipyard) actually a 98 meter class design right now. Those are already at the same level with Jose Rizal class Frigate from Philippines

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Not that standardized :


Yugoimport M71 = 20x110mm Hispano
Oerlikon KAB = 20x128mm
Denel GI-2/Oerlikon Skyranger =20x139mm
 

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They finally standardize RCWS of that caliber? No more manually manned gun 20mm? Nice
Not that standardized :


Yugoimport M71 = 20x110mm Hispano
Oerlikon KAB = 20x128mm
Denel GI-2/Oerlikon Skyranger =20x139mm
Not standard at all, this RCWS use Oerlikon KAE cannon which is 20x128mm caliber, and the list of 20mm caliber used by the navy so far is:

  • Denel GA-1 = 20×82mm
  • Yugoimport M71 = 20×110mm
  • Old WW2 Oerlikon L70 = 20×110mmRB
  • Denel GI-2 = 20×139mm
  • Rheinmetall Rh202 = 20×139mm
If the MCMV really is fitted with Searanger 20 with Oerlikon KAE, then the navy will have 5 different 20mm caliber in their inventory. Congrats! /s
 
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TNI AL Prioritizes Use of Domestic Production

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This year the signing of the TNI AL contract was attended by 26 work units, consisting of 94 contracts covering the procurement and maintenance of defense equipment, construction and repair of military infrastructure, construction of educational infrastructure, and support for fuel oil and lubricants (BMP) for operational needs.

any idea what contracts are about ?
 

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3 KRI Will Strengthen Koarmada III

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"We are ready to mingle, unite with all components in the working area of Koarmada III. Ready to work together and encourage everything to move in a better direction," said Pangkoarmada III.

He added that if there were 3 KRIs that would be transferred to Koarmada III. However, the arrival was gradual, 2 corvettes, namely KRI Fatahillah-361 and KRI Malahayati-362.

 

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Does the ammo use on those 5 guns interchangeable?
Nope, only Denel GI-2 and Rheinmetall Rh202 with the same 20×139mm caliber is interchangeable, even the 20x110mm (Hispano) and 20x110mmRB has different neck and rim profile, they are not interchangeable with one and another.
 

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Indonesia approves proposal to procure ex-South Korean corvettes​


The approval was confirmed in a notice issued by the MoF to the Indonesian Ministry of Defense (MoD) on 7 December. A copy of the notice was provided to Janes by a source close to the matter in late January 2023.

Janes first reported in October 2022 that the MoD had requested to procure at least one ex-RoKN Pohang-class corvette as a stopgap measure for the Indonesian Navy. The ministry had also proposed that the procurement be financed with funds from a foreign lender. This proposal was rejected by the MoF then, but no reasons were given.

Details provided in the 7 December notice indicate that this proposal was re-submitted by the MoD on 28 October, in addition to a list of other proposed procurements, such as shipborne munitions. The MoD has now cleared the MoF to take on up to USD21 million in foreign loans to fund the proposed acquisition of up to three Pohang-class corvettes.

 
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