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Euronaval 2024: Italy’s New FREMM EVO Breaks Cover​

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Euronaval 2024: Italy's New FREMM EVO Breaks Cover - Naval News

Italian shipbuilder Fincantieri is showcasing for the very first time a scale model of the FREMM EVO at Euronaval 2024...

www.navalnews.com

^^^ Lets hope Indonesia is still getting those 6 FREMM and get the latest EVO.

seems the tower using OPV Thaon di Revel class

will be interesting , if build in Indonesia later on

 

[ardezzo]

Light+ hahahahaha

 

[Umigami]

Light+ hahahahaha

Is upgrade to Full included on our contract?

 

[Lordimperator]

Tais license LPC 65 aka KCR 60 with 68 meters length, Palindo made progress
Source : https://www.linkedin.com/posts/doen...optimaseries-ugcPost-7257598669133144064-iRF8

The Doen Waterjet installation

Earlier this month, PT Palindo Marine successfully installed a DOEN DJ450B-DT (booster) waterjet onto the 68m attack craft (KCR 60), which it is constructing for the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL).

The waterjet was supplied with a hull-matching steel intake tunnel, tailored and fully machined, providing a hassle-free installation.

DJ450B-DT utilises our unique Direct Thrust shaftline. In this arrangement, the shaft directly thrusts to the gearbox. This variant provides upfront cost savings, allows for a more compact installation, and pays ongoing dividends through simple and cost-effective running and maintenance.

This KCR 60 is due to be launched in 2025. Watch this space!

 

[Lordimperator]

Is upgrade to Full included on our contract?

Only light+, already equipped with 16 cells sylver A50 and kronos quad C band, suffice enough.

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853797188129726481

Super PPA/ PPA Evo, with 64 cells

Euronaval 2024: Fincantieri presents the Super-PPA, or PPA EVO
05/11/2024 | Eugenio Po
After the FREMM EVO comes the PPA EVO, a further updated version of the PPA.

It is a ship that, while maintaining the hull and general configuration of the PPA, introduces further upgrades in terms of modularity and adds new capabilities. In this regard, the PPA EVO will have new capabilities in the management of drones (UAV, USV and UUV), but also an enhancement in the available armament.

The PPA EVO, for example, will be able to receive up to 8 SYLVER 8-cell modules, 4 modules at the bow (32 cells) and 4 modules amidships (32 modules), for a total of up to 64 VLS cells (not only of the SYLVER A50 type but also of the A70 type, therefore potentially with the capacity to use the MdCN). The MM should introduce 2 PPA EVO to replace the 2 ships sold to Indonesia.

In the long term, however, the Navy's intention is to have 4 PPAs in the Full configuration (we believe that the 2 new EVO PPAs can be counted among the Full PPAs: Editor's note) and 3 in the Light+ version.

RID Rivista Italiana Difesa - Euronaval 2024: Fincantieri presenta il Super-PPA, ovvero il PPA EVO

Euronaval 2024: Fincantieri presenta il Super-PPA, ovvero il PPA EVO

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The article believes that Italian Navy will buy PPA Evo as replacement of light+ PPA that being sold to Indonesia.

 

[Lordimperator]

now i would rather choose another PPA, rather than pursue the contract of 6 FREMM

 

[Anmdt]

Tais license LPC 65 aka KCR 60 with 68 meters length, Palindo made progress
Source : https://www.linkedin.com/posts/doen...optimaseries-ugcPost-7257598669133144064-iRF8
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It is confusing but as it appears TAIS has customized LPC 65 with a booster waterjet and this makes the ship in the same propulsion style as MEKO WARP. It has both propellers and a booster waterjet for attaining high speed.

It is definitely not FPB-68 design of TAIS ,that we have discussed earlier, It is LPC-65 (slightly expanded). I was wondering how they may use DOEN on FPB68 design since FPB68 has LM2500 and DOEN doesn't have a waterjet booster in the class that supports such an input power. Only MJP and RR supports such high input power.

 

[Lordimperator]

It is confusing but as it appears TAIS has customized LPC 65 with a booster waterjet and this makes the ship in the same propulsion style as MEKO WARP. It has both propellers and a booster waterjet for attaining high speed.

It is definitely not FPB-68 design of TAIS ,that we have discussed earlier, It is LPC-65 (slightly expanded). I was wondering how they may use DOEN on FPB68 design since FPB68 has LM2500 and DOEN doesn't have a waterjet booster in the class that supports such an input power. Only MJP and RR supports such high input power.

So, Its new kind of mix?

Doen WaterJets is supplying a DJ450B-DT waterjet (impeller dia. 1145mm) to PT Palindo Marine, which is commissioned by the MOD to design and construct the new generation 68m fast attack craft for the Navy (TNI Al). The equipment, configured as a booster jet will be coupled to MAN Energy Solutions' 20V175D-ML diesel, rated at 4400kW.

Doen WaterJets on LinkedIn: #iso9001 #doenwaterjets #palindomarine #performance #reliability…

It was a pleasure to host a delegation from the Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MOD) at our factory, showcasing Australia's advanced manufacturing…

www.linkedin.com

 

[Anmdt]

So, Its new kind of mix?

Doen WaterJets on LinkedIn: #iso9001 #doenwaterjets #palindomarine #performance #reliability…

It was a pleasure to host a delegation from the Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MOD) at our factory, showcasing Australia's advanced manufacturing…

www.linkedin.com

Similar to this but without the gas turbine. Instead, they use a separate diesel engine to drive the booster waterjet.

So i was mistaken to assume that 68 meters FAC as FPB68, while it is referring to LPC65 (extended version). There is only single project running in Palindo, by TAIS.

Since DOEN refers to the waterjet as DT - Booster, it is not steerable, and we do not see steering WJ in the images that only leads to propeller + rudder set on the sides. Hull form also suggests this.

FACM70, however, is a fully WJ equipped design.

 

[Umigami]

Expect Full Turkiye FMP.
Havelsan doesn't like Aselsan Cafrad ?

 

[Lordimperator]

Expect Full Turkiye FMP.
Havelsan doesn't like Aselsan Cafrad ?

What do you mean?

 

[Anmdt]

Expect Full Turkiye FMP.
Havelsan doesn't like Aselsan Cafrad ?

How could this be deduced from the video?

Radars are customised according to the client's requirements, regardless of the CMS provider.

 

[Lordimperator]

How could this be deduced from the video?

Radars are customised according to the client's requirements, regardless of the CMS provider.

especially video tailored from francophile

 

[Lordimperator]

PPA Evo ASW Suite

The PPA evo weaponery should be strongly reinforced with the installation of up to 64 vertical launcher systems – probably a mix of A50s and A70s, 8 anti-ship missiles in addition to the two 76mm guns placed on the front deck and above the helicopter hangar. For secondary guns, 30/40mm CIWS placed on each side of the upper deck and torpedo tubes, probably for MU90s, will complete this big configuration. The ship can accommodate 2 helicopters: 1 EH101 from Leaonardo and 1 NH90 or 2 NH90s as well as small-sized UAVs for reconnaissance. To detect and counter unmanned systems, the Omega360 radar and direct energy weapon (DEW) will be fitted. Specifically for ASW, a variable depth sonar (VDS) can be fitted as option and torpedo decoy launching system for self-protection is not forgotten.

As already reported by Naval News, Fincantieri sold two PPAs currently under different stage of outfitting and trials to Indonesia, originally destined to the Italian Navy: Marcantonio Colonna (P 433) and Ruggiero di Lauria (P 435), but for now transformation into PPA evo is not planned. To replace the two vessels, the Italian Navy should receive 2 new PPAs in the 2.0 standard instead. The final configuration of the latter was not announced though. Otherwise, for export, Fincantieri looks at “mature navies” without further precision and is subject to geopolitical aleas.

Fincantieri introduces PPA Evo for the first time at Euronaval 2024 - Naval News

At Euronaval 2024, Fincantieri officially introduced a new version of its PPA surface combatant under the name PPA 2.0 or PPA Evo

www.navalnews.com

 

[Umigami]

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PPA Evo ASW Suite

Fincantieri introduces PPA Evo for the first time at Euronaval 2024 - Naval News

At Euronaval 2024, Fincantieri officially introduced a new version of its PPA surface combatant under the name PPA 2.0 or PPA Evo

www.navalnews.com

What's that mean?

 

[Lordimperator]

What's that mean?

I dont know about it, maybe it refers to the A70 and SCALP Naval, to be excluded on the PPA Evo export ver. So all 64 will be A50, without the land attack capabilities

 

[Umigami]

I dont know about it, maybe it refers to the A70 and SCALP Naval, to be excluded on the PPA Evo export ver. So all 64 will be A50, without the land attack capabilities

So 052D still has an edge after all

 

[Lordimperator]

So 052D still has an edge after all

ofc, the power of of type 52 defence system is only comparable with Aegis on AB and Tico.

 

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especially video tailored from francophile

Everything about turkifikasi he always nyinyir...