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Ukrainian engine (AL-450) loses a lot of power at high altitudes. A new engine is needed that satisfies the power envelope at higher altitudes(above 40k feet). Bigger and better EO systems are also needed. There comes in the new Aselflir-600.
 

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"Gökkuşağı" must be the new name of MIUS. Most likely, we will see the first prototype at the end of 2022 and first flight in first quarter of 2023.
 

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"Gökkuşağı" must be the new name of MIUS. Most likely, we will see the first prototype at the end of 2022 and first flight in first quarter of 2023.
With this timeframe, how will Baykar land MIUS on TCG Anadolu?
 

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The drones which is in development

TAI
  • Göksungur supersonic decoy
  • Anka-TP with 1500hp turboprop
  • TISU fighter jet drone

Bayraktar
  • TB3 MALE drones
  • Akinci (2x220hp, 2x450hp, 2x750hp)
  • Gökkuşağı(MIUS) fighter jet drone(subsonic with 4000lb and supersonic with 9000lb turbofan)
 

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Yeah, we will definitely see the prototype in load testing soon, in a year. Maybe supersonic MIUS is named Gökkuşağı (Rainbow).
 

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With this timeframe, how will Baykar land MIUS on TCG Anadolu?

I don't think the real plan is to deploy MIUS to TCG Anadolu. We will probably only see TB3+Atak-2 on Anadolu but the second ship may be operational with both TB3 and MIUS. Rather than modifying the Anadolu's deck again and playing with the original stability settings, this option will be considered for second ship. The deck of the second ship which will come after Anadolu, is being redesigned for such operations in mind and I think we cannot see these operations with MIUS before 2027-2030.

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I don't think the real plan is to deploy MIUS to TCG Anadolu. We will probably only see TB3+Atak-2 on Anadolu but the second ship may be operational with both TB3 and MIUS. Rather than modifying the Anadolu's deck again and playing with the original stability settings, this option will be considered for second ship. The deck of the second ship which will come after Anadolu, is being redesigned for such operations in mind and I think we cannot see these operations with MIUS before 2027-2030.

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I do remember Baykar saying that he will land MIUS on Anadolu in 2023
Honestly, if he can do so, then why just not deploy it in TCG Anadolu
 

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I do remember Baykar saying that he will land MIUS on Anadolu in 2023
Honestly, if he can do so, then why just not deploy it in TCG Anadolu

2023 will be the year of first flight and I don't suppose they can do it in same year. I hope MIUS can land on Anadolu but sometimes the name of the first product that emerged in our defense industry can be used to describe other variants of its class. For example, Hürjet's name was also used with Anadolu. I look at this issue as the "development of manned and unmanned supersonic aircraft technology that can land and take off on such naval platform with larger decks" in general. In this way, an infrastructure is being prepared for ships with large decks to come in the next years. MIUS is being designed for these kind of AC landing/take-off operations but Anadolu wasn't designed for that. I hope TCG Anadolu will have this capability, but as I said, an extra and costly modification may be required. I think the current modification on Anadolu is for TB3. Detailed designs of drones for Anadolu have already been prepared for TB3.

While Haluk Bayraktar explains TB3 in his presentation, TCG Anadolu was directly mentioned and underlined but it was emphasized that "MIUS can land and take off on LHD type ships". Although this sentence lists the capabilities of both drones, it summarizes what will be done in reality. We will wait and see.
 
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I want to see MIUS-XL with AI-9500F or f414 or ej200 engine and TF-X electronics and avionics. It will be like super maneuverable f-35 with minimum 4.5ton payload
 

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Kyrgyzstan to buy SİHA from Turkey​



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21/10/2021

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With the participation of President Sadir Caparov, a ceremony was held in the square in front of the building where the Presidential Administration is located, for the delivery of military vehicles, which are stated to have been purchased for the first time from the budget, to the Border Unit Services of the Kyrgyzstan National Security State Committee.
In a statement to reporters after the ceremony, Taşiyev said that they ordered the “Bayraktar TB2” SİHA from Turkey and that they will be delivered to them in the near future.
Pointing out that SİHAs are located in a limited number of countries in the world, Taşiyev said, “One of them will be our country. The people who will use SİHAs have been trained in Turkey. These SİHAs will come to our country soon.” said.
Taşiyev stated that they also purchased “Orlan-10” SİHA from Russia and provided sniper rifles.
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French media eyes Turkish drones during Erdoğan’s Africa trip​


ISTANBUL Oct 19, 2021​




A Bayraktar TB2 drone is equipped with ASELSAN's CATS and electro-optic reconnaissance, surveillance and targeting system, and Roketsan's MAM-L smart ammunition, Tekirdağ, Turkey, Nov. 6, 2020. (AA Photo)

A Bayraktar TB2 drone is equipped with ASELSAN's CATS and electro-optic reconnaissance, surveillance and targeting system, and Roketsan's MAM-L smart ammunition, Tekirdağ, Turkey, Nov. 6, 2020. (AA Photo)



by DAILY SABAH

Oct 19, 2021 2:58 pm



Turkey-made unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) were once again deemed worthy of international comment, this time by the French media, which seems to be closely following President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s ongoing tour in Africa.
A report by French daily Le Figaro entitled “Erdoğan strengthens his presence in Africa,” said that the Turkish president has noticed that the “Western colonial powers” had lost interest in Africa in the early 2000s, and that Turkey has begun to increase its presence in “Muslim African countries” such as Somalia and Libya.
It also stated that the national airline, Turkish Airlines (THY), is the only major airline company that has direct flights to Somali’s capital Mogadishu – where the West had carried out military operations between 1992 and 1994.
The possible sale of Turkish UAVs to Angola was discussed during Erdoğan’s visit on Monday, while similar talks are also expected to be held during his trip to Nigeria, the report noted. The Bayraktar TB2 unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) is the obvious choice, since it has already proven itself on the battlefield.
The report underlined that this particular UAV – either operated by the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) or the countries that purchased it – neutralized senior PKK terrorist Ismail Özden in Iraq. As part of a joint operation launched with the National Intelligence Organization (MIT), the Turkish military killed Özden, code-named Mam Zeki, in the Sinjar region on Aug. 15, 2018.

The UAVs were also used against putschist Gen. Khalifa Haftar and Russian mercenaries in Libya, defeated Bashar Assad's regime in Syria’s Idlib province and ensured Azerbaijan's victory over Armenian occupation forces during the recent conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, it noted.
Le Figaro's report dubbed the Turkish UAVs as a “dream weapon,” stressing that they are 20 times cheaper than warplanes and do not endanger the lives of its pilots.
“They have become a vector of Turkish influence in Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia. It is the influence that Erdoğan cleverly develops without engaging in conflict with countries more powerful than him, such as the United States, China and Russia. But he is not afraid to challenge less powerful countries like France. (Erdoğan) won the arm wrestling against France off the Libyan coast in June 2020,” it said.
The report also questioned how and why French industry lagged behind the U.S. and Israel and “even Turkey” in UAV production.
A historical reading of the French defense industry shows why. The first combat drone project was in 2008, but was canceled. Then a collaborative project was started between France, Germany, Italy and Spain, but expects the drone to make its maiden flight in 2028, 14 years after the Bayraktar TB2.
The report stated that Turkey once again framed its relations with Africa through an economic lens, which enables relations to also cover security issues.
Separately, French state radio RFI stated that Erdoğan wanted to strengthen his relations with Africa by visiting Angola, Nigeria and Togo, and that the economy was one of the aspects of the strategic partnership between Turkey and Africa.
It said that Turkey sells UCAVs to Ethiopia, Tunisia and Morocco, and those products “are cheaper than their Western counterparts and better quality than the Chinese ones.”

Angola sought Turkish UAVs

President Erdoğan on Monday, during his visit to the country, said Angola has requested to acquire Turkish-made combat drones, noting that the latest talks also included covered armored carriers.
Angola’s initial request for UAVs and UCAVs was made during President Joao Lourenco’s visit to Turkey three months ago.
Just last week, Turkey was reported to have expanded the export of its renowned drones by negotiating deals with Morocco and Ethiopia.
This was followed by a statement from Industry and Technology Minister Mustafa Varank, who on Friday said Turkey had presented options to the United Kingdom, which is “very interested” in buying Turkish-made armed drones.
Ukraine and Turkey’s NATO partner Poland have also ordered armed drones, which military experts say are cheaper than market rivals made in Israel, China and the U.S.


 

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